From: Eric Biggers <ebiggers@kernel.org>
To: "Jason A. Donenfeld" <Jason@zx2c4.com>
Cc: LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Linux Crypto Mailing List <linux-crypto@vger.kernel.org>,
Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu>,
Dominik Brodowski <linux@dominikbrodowski.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4] random: reseed more often immediately after booting
Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2022 19:39:35 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Yi1nd4rWI2dzg23J@sol.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220313014110.54451-1-Jason@zx2c4.com>
On Sat, Mar 12, 2022 at 06:41:10PM -0700, Jason A. Donenfeld wrote:
> In order to chip away at the "premature first" problem, we augment our
> existing entropy accounting with more frequent reseedings at boot.
>
> The idea is that at boot, we're getting entropy from various places, and
> we're not very sure which of early boot entropy is good and which isn't.
> Even when we're crediting the entropy, we're still not totally certain
> that it's any good. Since boot is the one time (aside from a compromise)
> that we have zero entropy, it's important that we shepherd entropy into
> the crng fairly often.
>
> At the same time, we don't want a "premature next" problem, whereby an
> attacker can brute force individual bits of added entropy. In lieu of
> going full-on Fortuna (for now), we can pick a simpler strategy of just
> reseeding more often during the first 5 minutes after boot. This is
> still bounded by the 256-bit entropy credit requirement, so we'll skip a
> reseeding if we haven't reached that, but in case entropy /is/ coming
> in, this ensures that it makes its way into the crng rather rapidly
> during these early stages.
>
> Ordinarily we reseed if the previous reseeding is 300 seconds old. This
> commit changes things so that for the first 600 seconds of boot time, we
> reseed if the previous reseeding is uptime / 2 seconds old. That means
> that we'll reseed at the very least double the uptime of the previous
> reseeding.
>
> Cc: Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu>
> Cc: Dominik Brodowski <linux@dominikbrodowski.net>
> Cc: Eric Biggers <ebiggers@google.com>
> Signed-off-by: Jason A. Donenfeld <Jason@zx2c4.com>
> ---
> v4 uses Eric's formulation relative to the last reseed time, rather than
> my prior one relative to boot time alone.
>
> drivers/char/random.c | 28 +++++++++++++++++++++++++---
> 1 file changed, 25 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
>
> diff --git a/drivers/char/random.c b/drivers/char/random.c
> index 19a602c69f2f..defdba110d1d 100644
> --- a/drivers/char/random.c
> +++ b/drivers/char/random.c
> @@ -327,6 +327,28 @@ static void crng_fast_key_erasure(u8 key[CHACHA_KEY_SIZE],
> memzero_explicit(first_block, sizeof(first_block));
> }
>
> +/*
> + * Return whether the crng seed is considered to be sufficiently
> + * old that a reseeding might be attempted. This happens if the last
> + * reseeding was CRNG_RESEED_INTERVAL ago, or during early boot, at
> + * an interval proportional to the uptime.
> + */
> +static bool crng_has_old_seed(void)
> +{
> + static bool early_boot = true;
> + unsigned long interval = CRNG_RESEED_INTERVAL;
> +
> + if (unlikely(READ_ONCE(early_boot))) {
> + time64_t uptime = ktime_get_seconds();
> + if (uptime >= CRNG_RESEED_INTERVAL / HZ * 2)
> + WRITE_ONCE(early_boot, false);
> + else
> + interval = max_t(unsigned int, 5 * HZ,
> + (unsigned int)uptime / 2 * HZ);
> + }
> + return time_after(jiffies, READ_ONCE(base_crng.birth) + interval);
> +}
> +
> /*
> * This function returns a ChaCha state that you may use for generating
> * random data. It also returns up to 32 bytes on its own of random data
> @@ -360,10 +382,10 @@ static void crng_make_state(u32 chacha_state[CHACHA_STATE_WORDS],
> }
>
> /*
> - * If the base_crng is more than 5 minutes old, we reseed, which
> - * in turn bumps the generation counter that we check below.
> + * If the base_crng is old enough, we try to reseed, which in turn
> + * bumps the generation counter that we check below.
> */
> - if (unlikely(time_after(jiffies, READ_ONCE(base_crng.birth) + CRNG_RESEED_INTERVAL)))
> + if (unlikely(crng_has_old_seed()))
> crng_reseed(false);
>
Looks good,
Reviewed-by: Eric Biggers <ebiggers@google.com>
- Eric
prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-03-13 3:39 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-03-09 15:26 [PATCH] random: reseed more often immediately after booting Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-03-09 19:18 ` [PATCH v2] " Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-03-10 4:57 ` Eric Biggers
2022-03-10 20:59 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-03-10 21:10 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-03-12 19:44 ` Eric Biggers
2022-03-13 0:35 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-03-13 1:00 ` Eric Biggers
2022-03-13 1:29 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-03-13 1:41 ` [PATCH v4] " Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-03-13 3:39 ` Eric Biggers [this message]
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