linux-crypto.vger.kernel.org archive mirror
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: "Theodore Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>
To: "Jason A. Donenfeld" <Jason@zx2c4.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-crypto@vger.kernel.org,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Guenter Roeck <linux@roeck-us.net>,
	Dominik Brodowski <linux@dominikbrodowski.net>,
	Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] random: allow writes to /dev/urandom to influence fast init
Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2022 08:31:54 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YjsTOsqiNaURZQLM@mit.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YjqbcQbYHCOpgqGg@zx2c4.com>

On Tue, Mar 22, 2022 at 10:00:49PM -0600, Jason A. Donenfeld wrote:
> 
> Another variation on that would be to do what this current patch does,
> but only crng_pre_init_inject() on CAP_SYS_ADMIN. But this has the same
> pitfall of only working as intended at cnrg_init=0 but not crng_init=1.
> That's better than nothing, but it's not perfect, and it introduces that
> problem with RNDADDTOENTCNT.

Well, one could argue that "RNDADDTOENTCNT" is a problem that has
always been there, and it already requires CAP_SYS_ADMIN.  So I'm not
sure it makes it any worse.

> > > And perhaps we might consider attempting to deprecate RNDADDTOENTCNT at
> > > some point in the future.
> >
> > That would be a good idea.  :-)
> 
> Oh cool, I'm glad you agree. Let's do that then. Have a preferred path?
> Maybe just a pr_once() saying not to use it?

Probably.  We could get more aggressive (e.g., WARN), but the first
Google search on RNDADDTOENTCNT returned:

	https://github.com/jumpnow/rndaddtoentcnt

So I'm now regretting not silently making it vanish a decade or more ago...

       	   	      	  	   	     - Ted

  reply	other threads:[~2022-03-23 12:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-03-22 19:14 [PATCH] random: allow writes to /dev/urandom to influence fast init Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-03-22 20:42 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-03-22 23:54   ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-03-23  2:15 ` David Laight
2022-03-23  2:50   ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-03-23  8:43     ` Rasmus Villemoes
2022-03-24 14:12       ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-03-23 11:45     ` David Laight
2022-03-23  3:35 ` Theodore Ts'o
2022-03-23  4:00   ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-03-23 12:31     ` Theodore Ts'o [this message]
2022-05-23 17:59     ` Pavel Machek
2022-03-23  4:30 ` Alex Xu (Hello71)
2022-03-23  4:47   ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-03-23 14:01     ` David Laight
2022-03-23 19:53       ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-03-24 18:01         ` Eric Biggers
2022-03-24  3:18     ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-03-24 16:28       ` Alex Xu (Hello71)
2022-03-24 17:20         ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-03-24 19:03           ` Alex Xu (Hello71)
2022-03-24 18:26       ` Eric Biggers
2022-03-24 18:31         ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-06-19 16:44       ` Pavel Machek
2022-03-24 19:53 ` Eric Biggers
2022-03-24 20:25   ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-06-19 16:56     ` Pavel Machek

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=YjsTOsqiNaURZQLM@mit.edu \
    --to=tytso@mit.edu \
    --cc=Jason@zx2c4.com \
    --cc=jannh@google.com \
    --cc=linux-crypto@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=linux@dominikbrodowski.net \
    --cc=linux@roeck-us.net \
    --cc=torvalds@linux-foundation.org \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox;
as well as URLs for NNTP newsgroup(s).