From: Lennart Poettering <mzxreary@0pointer.de>
To: "Jason A. Donenfeld" <Jason@zx2c4.com>
Cc: Alexander Graf <graf@amazon.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-crypto@vger.kernel.org,
Dominik Brodowski <linux@dominikbrodowski.net>,
Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu>,
Colm MacCarthaigh <colmmacc@amazon.com>,
Torben Hansen <htorben@amazon.co.uk>,
Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] random: add fork_event sysctl for polling VM forks
Date: Tue, 3 May 2022 14:33:39 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <YnEhI3IX0oerUbsZ@gardel-login> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YnEYN+Q3q76NVX3Q@zx2c4.com>
On Di, 03.05.22 13:55, Jason A. Donenfeld (Jason@zx2c4.com) wrote:
> I'm still not convinced there's value in having a counter or a UUID, but
> if you had to choose, would you prefer a counter or a UUID? It sounds
> like the former, because you see a use for distinguishing between zero
> and non-zero? Or did you finally agree with me that vmgenid isn't
> granular enough for that?
I would prefer a monotonic counter, since it allows answering
questions like the following:
1. Did this image get cloned at all? (i.e. counter != 0; usecase as per the MAC address
discussion)
2. Did the image get cloned since the last time I looked? (i.e. counter
!= my_previously_saved_counter; usecase: detect clones in an "offline"
fashion, i.e. from a component that doesn't continously run, but
only from time to time)
3. How many clones did I miss? (i.e. missed_clones =
my_previously_saved_counter - counter; usecase: catch up with
generating proxy D-Bus signal messages for clones).
There might be more.
Using a UUID would not give us #1 or #3. It would deliver #2 however.
Lennart
--
Lennart Poettering, Berlin
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-05-03 12:33 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-05-02 14:06 [PATCH 1/2] sysctl: read() must consume poll events, not poll() Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-05-02 14:06 ` [PATCH 2/2] random: add fork_event sysctl for polling VM forks Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-05-02 15:40 ` Lennart Poettering
2022-05-02 16:12 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-05-02 16:51 ` Lennart Poettering
2022-05-02 17:59 ` Alexander Graf
2022-05-02 18:29 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-05-02 18:57 ` Alexander Graf
2022-05-02 20:03 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-05-03 8:29 ` Lennart Poettering
2022-05-03 11:55 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-05-03 12:33 ` Lennart Poettering [this message]
2022-05-02 18:04 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-05-02 18:34 ` Alexander Graf
2022-05-02 18:46 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-05-02 18:56 ` Alexander Graf
2022-05-02 19:27 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-05-02 19:41 ` Alexander Graf
2022-05-04 15:45 ` Michael Kelley (LINUX)
2022-05-02 18:44 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-05-03 7:42 ` Lennart Poettering
2022-05-03 9:08 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-05-03 9:32 ` Lennart Poettering
2022-05-03 10:07 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-05-03 12:42 ` Lennart Poettering
2022-05-11 0:40 ` Simo Sorce
2022-05-11 1:18 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-05-11 12:59 ` Simo Sorce
2022-05-11 13:19 ` Alexander Graf
2022-05-11 13:19 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-05-11 14:32 ` Simo Sorce
2022-05-11 13:20 ` Alexander Graf
2022-05-02 15:30 ` [PATCH 1/2] sysctl: read() must consume poll events, not poll() Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-05-02 15:43 ` Lennart Poettering
2022-05-03 11:27 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-05-12 17:40 ` Luis Chamberlain
2022-05-12 18:29 ` Eric W. Biederman
2022-05-12 18:32 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-05-12 18:22 ` Lucas De Marchi
2022-05-12 18:27 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
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