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From: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
To: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 03/16] mm: add vma_desc_size(), vma_desc_pages() helpers
Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2025 19:36:59 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <7b0f5b81-e18c-4629-a715-b5fee722b4aa@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250908155652.GE789684@nvidia.com>

On 08.09.25 17:56, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 08, 2025 at 05:50:18PM +0200, David Hildenbrand wrote:
> 
>> So in practice there is indeed not a big difference between a private and
>> cow mapping.
> 
> Right and most drivers just check SHARED.
> 
> But if we are being documentative why they check shared is because the
> driver cannot tolerate COW.
> 
> I think if someone is cargo culting a diver and sees
> 'vma_never_cowable' they will have a better understanding of the
> driver side issues.
> 
> Driver's don't actually care about private vs shared, except this
> indirectly implies something about cow.

I recall some corner cases, but yes, most drivers don't clear MAP_MAYWRITE so
is_cow_mapping() would just rule out what they wanted to rule out (no anon
pages / cow semantics).

FWIW, I recalled some VM_MAYWRITE magic in memfd, but it's really just for
!cow mappings, so the following should likely work:

diff --git a/mm/memfd.c b/mm/memfd.c
index 1de610e9f2ea2..2a3aa26444bbb 100644
--- a/mm/memfd.c
+++ b/mm/memfd.c
@@ -346,14 +346,11 @@ static int check_write_seal(vm_flags_t *vm_flags_ptr)
         vm_flags_t vm_flags = *vm_flags_ptr;
         vm_flags_t mask = vm_flags & (VM_SHARED | VM_WRITE);
  
-       /* If a private mapping then writability is irrelevant. */
-       if (!(mask & VM_SHARED))
+       /* If a CoW mapping then writability is irrelevant. */
+       if (is_cow_mapping(vm_flags))
                 return 0;
  
-       /*
-        * New PROT_WRITE and MAP_SHARED mmaps are not allowed when
-        * write seals are active.
-        */
+       /* New PROT_WRITE mappings are not allowed when write-sealed. */
         if (mask & VM_WRITE)
                 return -EPERM;
  


-- 
Cheers

David / dhildenb


  reply	other threads:[~2025-09-08 17:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 84+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-09-08 11:10 [PATCH 00/16] expand mmap_prepare functionality, port more users Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-09-08 11:10 ` [PATCH 01/16] mm/shmem: update shmem to use mmap_prepare Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-09-08 14:59   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-08 15:28     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-09-09  3:19   ` Baolin Wang
2025-09-09  9:08     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-09-08 11:10 ` [PATCH 02/16] device/dax: update devdax " Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-09-08 15:03   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-08 15:28     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-09-08 15:31       ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-08 11:10 ` [PATCH 03/16] mm: add vma_desc_size(), vma_desc_pages() helpers Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-09-08 12:51   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-08 13:12     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-09-08 13:32       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-08 14:09         ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-09-08 14:20           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-08 14:47             ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-09-08 15:07               ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-08 15:35                 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-09-08 17:30                   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-09  9:21                     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-09-08 15:16               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-08 15:24                 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-08 15:33                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-08 15:46                     ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-08 15:50                       ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-08 15:56                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-08 17:36                           ` David Hildenbrand [this message]
2025-09-08 20:24                             ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-09-08 15:33                   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-09-08 15:10   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-08 11:10 ` [PATCH 04/16] relay: update relay to use mmap_prepare Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-09-08 15:15   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-08 15:29     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-09-08 11:10 ` [PATCH 05/16] mm/vma: rename mmap internal functions to avoid confusion Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-09-08 15:19   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-08 15:31     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-09-08 17:38       ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-09  9:04         ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-09-08 11:10 ` [PATCH 06/16] mm: introduce the f_op->mmap_complete, mmap_abort hooks Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-09-08 12:55   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-08 13:19     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-09-08 15:27   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-09  9:13     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-09-09  9:26       ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-09  9:37         ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-09-09 16:43           ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-09-09 17:36             ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-09-09 16:44   ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-09-08 11:10 ` [PATCH 07/16] doc: update porting, vfs documentation for mmap_[complete, abort] Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-09-08 23:17   ` Randy Dunlap
2025-09-09  9:02     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-09-08 11:10 ` [PATCH 08/16] mm: add remap_pfn_range_prepare(), remap_pfn_range_complete() Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-09-08 13:00   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-08 13:27     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-09-08 13:35       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-08 14:18         ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-09-08 16:03           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-08 16:07             ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-09-08 11:10 ` [PATCH 09/16] mm: introduce io_remap_pfn_range_prepare, complete Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-09-08 11:10 ` [PATCH 10/16] mm/hugetlb: update hugetlbfs to use mmap_prepare, mmap_complete Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-09-08 13:11   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-08 13:37     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-09-08 13:52       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-08 14:19         ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-09-08 11:10 ` [PATCH 11/16] mm: update mem char driver " Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-09-08 11:10 ` [PATCH 12/16] mm: update resctl to use mmap_prepare, mmap_complete, mmap_abort Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-09-08 13:24   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-08 13:40     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-09-08 14:27     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-09-08 11:10 ` [PATCH 13/16] mm: update cramfs to use mmap_prepare, mmap_complete Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-09-08 13:27   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-08 13:44     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-09-08 11:10 ` [PATCH 14/16] fs/proc: add proc_mmap_[prepare, complete] hooks for procfs Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-09-08 11:10 ` [PATCH 15/16] fs/proc: update vmcore to use .proc_mmap_[prepare, complete] Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-09-08 11:10 ` [PATCH 16/16] kcov: update kcov to use mmap_prepare, mmap_complete Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-09-08 13:30   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-08 13:47     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-09-08 13:27 ` [PATCH 00/16] expand mmap_prepare functionality, port more users Jan Kara
2025-09-08 14:48   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-09-08 15:04     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-08 15:15       ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-09-09  8:31 ` Alexander Gordeev
2025-09-09  8:59   ` Lorenzo Stoakes

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