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From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
To: Charlie Jenkins <charlie@rivosinc.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC v2 0/4] mm: Introduce MAP_BELOW_HINT
Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2024 10:30:56 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZtAxwJFH_hAh1BPG@tiehlicka> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20240829-patches-below_hint_mmap-v2-0-638a28d9eae0@rivosinc.com>

On Thu 29-08-24 00:15:57, Charlie Jenkins wrote:
> Some applications rely on placing data in free bits addresses allocated
> by mmap. Various architectures (eg. x86, arm64, powerpc) restrict the
> address returned by mmap to be less than the 48-bit address space,
> unless the hint address uses more than 47 bits (the 48th bit is reserved
> for the kernel address space).
> 
> The riscv architecture needs a way to similarly restrict the virtual
> address space. On the riscv port of OpenJDK an error is thrown if
> attempted to run on the 57-bit address space, called sv57 [1].  golang
> has a comment that sv57 support is not complete, but there are some
> workarounds to get it to mostly work [2].
> 
> These applications work on x86 because x86 does an implicit 47-bit
> restriction of mmap() address that contain a hint address that is less
> than 48 bits.
> 
> Instead of implicitly restricting the address space on riscv (or any
> current/future architecture), a flag would allow users to opt-in to this
> behavior rather than opt-out as is done on other architectures. This is
> desirable because it is a small class of applications that do pointer
> masking.

IIRC this has been discussed at length when 5-level page tables support
has been proposed for x86. Sorry I do not have a link handy but lore
should help you. Linus was not really convinced and in the end vetoed it
and prefer that those few applications that benefit from greater address
space would do that explicitly than other way around.

-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs

  parent reply	other threads:[~2024-08-29  8:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-08-29  7:15 [PATCH RFC v2 0/4] mm: Introduce MAP_BELOW_HINT Charlie Jenkins
2024-08-29  7:15 ` [PATCH RFC v2 1/4] mm: Add MAP_BELOW_HINT Charlie Jenkins
2024-08-29  8:26   ` Michael Ellerman
2024-08-30  1:16     ` Charlie Jenkins
2024-08-29  7:15 ` [PATCH RFC v2 2/4] mm: Add hint and mmap_flags to struct vm_unmapped_area_info Charlie Jenkins
2024-08-29  8:48   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-08-30  1:11     ` Charlie Jenkins
2024-09-03 17:18   ` Christophe Leroy
2024-08-29  7:16 ` [PATCH RFC v2 3/4] mm: Support MAP_BELOW_HINT in vm_unmapped_area() Charlie Jenkins
2024-08-29  7:16 ` [PATCH RFC v2 4/4] selftests/mm: Create MAP_BELOW_HINT test Charlie Jenkins
2024-08-29  8:30 ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2024-08-29 17:33   ` [PATCH RFC v2 0/4] mm: Introduce MAP_BELOW_HINT Charlie Jenkins
2024-09-03  8:44     ` Michal Hocko
2024-08-29  8:42 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-08-29  9:54   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-08-29 22:16     ` Charlie Jenkins
2024-08-30  9:52       ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-08-31  1:45         ` Charlie Jenkins
2024-08-30 15:03   ` Dave Hansen
2024-08-30 15:18     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-08-29  9:02 ` Vlastimil Babka
2024-08-29 17:00   ` Palmer Dabbelt
2024-09-05  6:47 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2024-09-05 17:26   ` Charlie Jenkins
2024-09-09  9:46     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2024-10-21 13:22       ` Steven Price
2024-10-21 19:48         ` Liam R. Howlett
2024-10-23  9:31           ` Steven Price
2024-10-23 18:10             ` Liam R. Howlett
2024-10-24 10:52               ` Steven Price

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