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From: Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>
To: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC v3 1/2] mm: Add personality flag to limit address to 47 bits
Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2024 12:43:44 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Ztrq8PBLJ3QuFJz7@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f23b18c6-1856-4b59-9ba3-59809b425c81@app.fastmail.com>

On Fri, Sep 06, 2024 at 09:55:42AM +0000, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 6, 2024, at 09:14, Guo Ren wrote:
> > On Fri, Sep 6, 2024 at 3:18 PM Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de> wrote:
> >> It's also unclear to me how we want this flag to interact with
> >> the existing logic in arch_get_mmap_end(), which attempts to
> >> limit the default mapping to a 47-bit address space already.
> >
> > To optimize RISC-V progress, I recommend:
> >
> > Step 1: Approve the patch.
> > Step 2: Update Go and OpenJDK's RISC-V backend to utilize it.
> > Step 3: Wait approximately several iterations for Go & OpenJDK
> > Step 4: Remove the 47-bit constraint in arch_get_mmap_end()
> 
> I really want to first see a plausible explanation about why
> RISC-V can't just implement this using a 47-bit DEFAULT_MAP_WINDOW
> like all the other major architectures (x86, arm64, powerpc64),

FWIW arm64 actually limits DEFAULT_MAP_WINDOW to 48-bit in the default
configuration. We end up with a 47-bit with 16K pages but for a
different reason that has to do with LPA2 support (I doubt we need this
for the user mapping but we need to untangle some of the macros there;
that's for a separate discussion).

That said, we haven't encountered any user space problems with a 48-bit
DEFAULT_MAP_WINDOW. So I also think RISC-V should follow a similar
approach (47 or 48 bit default limit). Better to have some ABI
consistency between architectures. One can still ask for addresses above
this default limit via mmap().

-- 
Catalin

  reply	other threads:[~2024-09-06 11:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-09-05 21:15 [PATCH RFC v3 0/2] mm: Introduce ADDR_LIMIT_47BIT personality flag Charlie Jenkins
2024-09-05 21:15 ` [PATCH RFC v3 1/2] mm: Add personality flag to limit address to 47 bits Charlie Jenkins
2024-09-06  6:59   ` Michael Ellerman
2024-09-09 19:07     ` Charlie Jenkins
2024-09-10  9:20       ` Christophe Leroy
2024-09-10 12:43         ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2024-09-11 13:38           ` Michael Ellerman
2024-09-12  6:20             ` Charlie Jenkins
2024-09-20  5:10               ` Michael Ellerman
2024-09-11 13:37       ` Michael Ellerman
2024-09-06  7:17   ` Arnd Bergmann
2024-09-06  8:02     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-09-06  8:14     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-09-06  9:14       ` Arnd Bergmann
2024-09-06  9:52         ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-09-09 23:22           ` Charlie Jenkins
2024-09-10  9:13             ` Arnd Bergmann
2024-09-10 23:29               ` Charlie Jenkins
2024-09-11 13:50               ` Michael Ellerman
2024-09-06  9:14     ` Guo Ren
2024-09-06  9:55       ` Arnd Bergmann
2024-09-06 11:43         ` Catalin Marinas [this message]
2024-09-10 19:08           ` Liam R. Howlett
2024-09-11  0:45             ` Charlie Jenkins
2024-09-11  7:25               ` Arnd Bergmann
2024-09-12  6:06                 ` Charlie Jenkins
2024-09-11 18:21               ` Catalin Marinas
2024-09-12  6:18                 ` Charlie Jenkins
2024-09-12 10:53                   ` Catalin Marinas
2024-09-12 21:15                     ` Charlie Jenkins
2024-09-13 10:08                       ` Catalin Marinas
2024-09-13 10:21                         ` Catalin Marinas
2024-09-13 20:15                         ` Charlie Jenkins
2024-09-13  7:41                   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-09-13 21:04                     ` Charlie Jenkins
2024-10-02 14:26                       ` Palmer Dabbelt
2024-09-05 21:15 ` [PATCH RFC v3 2/2] selftests/mm: Create ADDR_LIMIT_47BIT test Charlie Jenkins
2024-09-06  6:08 ` [PATCH RFC v3 0/2] mm: Introduce ADDR_LIMIT_47BIT personality flag Guo Ren
2024-09-06  6:19 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2024-09-08 11:26 ` Jiaxun Yang

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