From: Ben Widawsky <ben.widawsky@intel.com>
To: Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>
Cc: linux-cxl@vger.kernel.org,
Alison Schofield <alison.schofield@intel.com>,
Ira Weiny <ira.weiny@intel.com>,
Jonathan Cameron <Jonathan.Cameron@huawei.com>,
Vishal Verma <vishal.l.verma@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/4] Region Creation
Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2021 09:12:12 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210614161159.cqq64nbm5whzpud7@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAPcyv4j=cFikFD_jrPwMfGuMbFZ+1DPUyQjYq7SqTYYauMxLOA@mail.gmail.com>
On 21-06-11 17:44:02, Dan Williams wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 10, 2021 at 11:58 AM Ben Widawsky <ben.widawsky@intel.com> wrote:
> >
> > CXL interleave sets and non-interleave sets are described via regions. A region
> > is specified in the CXL 2.0 specification and the purpose is to create a
> > standardized way to preserve the region across reboots.
> >
> > Introduced here is the basic mechanism to create and configure and delete a CXL
> > region. Configuring a region simply means giving it a size, offset within the
> > CFMWS window, UUID, and a target list. Enabling/activating a region, which
> > ultimately means programming the HDM decoders in the chain, is left for later
> > work.
> >
> > The patches are only minimally tested so far in QEMU emulation and so x1
> > interleave is all that's supported.
> >
> > Here is a sample topology (also in patch #4)
>
> I'm just going to react to the attributes before looking at the
> implementation to make sure we're level set.
>
> >
> > decoder1.0
> > ├── create_region
> > ├── delete_region
> > ├── devtype
> > ├── locked
> > ├── region1.0:0
> > │ ├── offset
>
> Is this the region's offset relative to the next available free space
> in the parent decoder range? If this is output only I think it's ok,
> but I think the address space allocation decision belongs to the
> region driver at activation time. I.e. userspace does not have much of
> a chance at specifying this relative all the other dynamic operations
> that can be happening in the decoder.
>
This was my mistake. Offset will be determined by the driver and I intend for
this to be read-only.
> > │ ├── size
> > │ ├── subsystem -> ../../../../../../../bus/cxl
> > │ ├── target0
> > │ ├── uevent
> > │ ├── uuid
> > │ └── verify
>
> I don't understand the role of a standalone @verify attribute, there
> is verification that can happen per attribute write, and there is
> final verification that can happen at region bind time. Either way
> anything verify would check is duplicated somewhere else, and the
> verification per attribute update is more precise. For example writes
> to @size can check for free space in parent decoder and fail if
> unavailable. Writes to targetX can fail if the memdev is not connected
> to this decoder's port topology, or the memdev is out of decoder
> resources. The final region bind will fail if mid-level switches are
> lacking decoder resources, or would require changing a decoder
> configuration that is pinned active.
I strongly believe verification per attribute write will get too fragile. I'm
afraid it's going to require writing attributes in a specific order so that we
can do said verification in a sane way. We can skip that and just check it all
on bind. Most of that logic is what would be contained in verify(), so why not
expose it for userspace that may want to test out various configs without
actually trying to bind?
Also, I like having ABI that helps userspace get details on the configuration
failure reason. You mention in the other reply, TRACE_EVENT. I suppose userspace
could use tracepoints, or scrape dmesg for this same info. Maybe it's 6 one way,
a half dozen the other. I'd be interested to know if there are other examples of
tracepoints being used by userspace in a way like this and what the experience
is like.
To summarize, I think we need an atomic way to do verification (which obviously
happens at bind()), and I think we need UAPI to get the configuration error.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-06-14 16:12 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-06-10 18:57 [RFC PATCH 0/4] Region Creation Ben Widawsky
2021-06-10 18:57 ` [RFC PATCH 1/4] cxl/region: Add region creation ABI Ben Widawsky
2021-06-11 13:31 ` Jonathan Cameron
2021-06-16 17:38 ` Ben Widawsky
2021-06-10 18:57 ` [RFC PATCH 2/4] cxl/region: Create attribute structure / verify Ben Widawsky
2021-06-11 13:37 ` Jonathan Cameron
2021-06-12 0:59 ` Dan Williams
2021-06-14 16:12 ` Ben Widawsky
2021-06-10 18:57 ` [RFC PATCH 3/4] cxl: Move cxl_memdev conversion helper to mem.h Ben Widawsky
2021-06-10 18:57 ` [RFC PATCH 4/4] cxl/region: Introduce concept of region configuration Ben Widawsky
2021-06-11 13:52 ` Jonathan Cameron
2021-06-14 16:18 ` Ben Widawsky
2021-06-14 16:20 ` Jonathan Cameron
2021-06-11 13:11 ` [RFC PATCH 0/4] Region Creation Jonathan Cameron
2021-06-11 13:53 ` Jonathan Cameron
2021-06-11 16:12 ` Ben Widawsky
2021-06-12 0:44 ` Dan Williams
2021-06-14 8:20 ` Jonathan Cameron
2021-06-14 16:12 ` Ben Widawsky [this message]
2021-06-14 21:04 ` Dan Williams
2021-06-14 21:54 ` Ben Widawsky
2021-06-14 22:21 ` Dan Williams
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