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The evolution of this approach is largely a > > +reaction to Moore's Law where a chip tape out is now highly expensive, and the > > +chip design is extremely large. Replacing fixed HW logic with a flexible and > > +tightly coupled FW/HW combination is an effective risk mitigation against chip > > +respin. Problems in the HW design can be counteracted in device FW. This is > > +especially true for devices which present a stable and backwards compatible > > +interface to the operating system driver (such as NVMe). > > + > > +The FW layer in devices has grown to incredible sizes and devices frequently > incredible size > (tricky to get the plurals right in this sentence, but currently its a mixture) Okay I trust your english! Thanks, Jason