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From: Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>
To: Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
	Alison Schofield <alison.schofield@intel.com>,
	Dave Jiang <dave.jiang@intel.com>
Cc: <linux-cxl@vger.kernel.org>, <dave@stgolabs.net>,
	<jonathan.cameron@huawei.com>, <vishal.l.verma@intel.com>,
	<ira.weiny@intel.com>, <dan.j.williams@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] cxl: Convert pioson ops rwsem usages to scope based resource management
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2023 17:33:09 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <655eabd544356_b2e8294b3@dwillia2-xfh.jf.intel.com.notmuch> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <655ea6fb1b180_b2e82942@dwillia2-xfh.jf.intel.com.notmuch>

Dan Williams wrote:
> Alison Schofield wrote:
> > On Wed, Nov 15, 2023 at 04:55:11PM -0700, Dave Jiang wrote:
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On 11/15/23 16:32, Alison Schofield wrote:
> > > > On Tue, Nov 14, 2023 at 11:25:20AM -0700, Dave Jiang wrote:
> > > >> Cleanup the rwsem usages in the poison ops to reduce complexity and reduce
> > > >> code lines.
> > > >>
> > > >> Signed-off-by: Dave Jiang <dave.jiang@intel.com>
> > > >> ---
> > > >>
> > > >> Hi Alison, follow on patch to yours. Can't be backported, but nice clean
> > > >> up going forward.
> > > > 
> > > > Tell me more about your backport worry.  Are we expected to avoid using
> > > > the new guard any place where there is a backport possibility?  
> > > 
> > > Given that there's none of the cleanup.h support in stable kernels, I don't see how we can backport the guard() code automatically. Thus your original fix with a fixes tag plus a new cleanup patch follow on w/o backport issues seems necessary. Otherwise a separate backport patch would be needed no?
> > 
> > Sure, it would be needed. I guess I'm looking for why this backport
> > issue is so special. (not being sarcastic). Is there specific guidance
> > not to use the cleanup stuff if we think a patch might be backported?
> > I don't usually consider backportability when adding a Fixes tag to a
> > Patch. Have 'backport folks' asked us not to use it?
> > 
> > I'm imagining the slippery slope of not fixing something the best way
> > because we are worried that backport folks can't figure out how to
> > merge it.
> 
> Upstream should be fixing things "the best way" in the current kernel.
> If the best way requires some work when backporting, so be it.
> 
> The general rule for making backports easier is for when a fix
> identifies additional cleanups. In that scenario the fix should be made
> first and then the cleanups layered on top.
> 
> The cleanup.h helpers are an interesting case because they allow adding
> new locking calls and defining the scope of the lock at the same time. I
> submit that cleanup.h helpers are as easy / difficult to backport as
> open-coded lock / unlock calls.

The other concern here though is mixing a conversion to use cleanup.h
with a cleanup to use scope-based locking, and the fact that the
_interruptible version of the scope based locking is not available until
v6.8. So while I think it is ok to introduce new locking as a fix with
the cleanup.h headers. The old-style should be used when the fix overlaps
a conversion.

  reply	other threads:[~2023-11-23  1:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-11-14  2:53 [PATCH] cxl/core: Hold the region rwsem during poison ops alison.schofield
2023-11-14 18:20 ` Dave Jiang
2023-11-14 18:25 ` [PATCH] cxl: Convert pioson ops rwsem usages to scope based resource management Dave Jiang
2023-11-15 23:32   ` Alison Schofield
2023-11-15 23:55     ` Dave Jiang
2023-11-16  2:17       ` Alison Schofield
2023-11-16 16:27         ` Dave Jiang
2023-11-23  1:12         ` Dan Williams
2023-11-23  1:33           ` Dan Williams [this message]
2023-11-16 22:14 ` [PATCH] cxl/core: Hold the region rwsem during poison ops Davidlohr Bueso
2023-11-20 19:07   ` Alison Schofield
2023-11-23  1:48 ` Dan Williams
2023-11-27  0:03   ` Alison Schofield

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