From: Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>
Cc: <linux-cxl@vger.kernel.org>, <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
David Lechner <dlechner@baylibre.com>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
"Ingo Molnar" <mingo@kernel.org>,
"Fabio M. De Francesco"
<fabio.maria.de.francesco@linux.intel.com>,
Davidlohr Bueso <dave@stgolabs.net>,
Jonathan Cameron <jonathan.cameron@huawei.com>,
"Dave Jiang" <dave.jiang@intel.com>,
Alison Schofield <alison.schofield@intel.com>,
Vishal Verma <vishal.l.verma@intel.com>,
Ira Weiny <ira.weiny@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/7] cleanup: Introduce DEFINE_ACQUIRE() a CLASS() for conditional locking
Date: Wed, 7 May 2025 14:18:25 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <681bce2193f38_1229d6294c7@dwillia2-xfh.jf.intel.com.notmuch> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250507093224.GD4439@noisy.programming.kicks-ass.net>
Peter Zijlstra wrote:
[..]
> > @@ -202,6 +204,28 @@ DEFINE_GUARD(mutex, struct mutex *, mutex_lock(_T), mutex_unlock(_T))
> > DEFINE_GUARD_COND(mutex, _try, mutex_trylock(_T))
> > DEFINE_GUARD_COND(mutex, _intr, mutex_lock_interruptible(_T) == 0)
> >
> > +/* mutex type that only implements scope-based unlock */
> > +struct mutex_acquire {
> > + /* private: */
> > + struct mutex mutex;
> > +};
> > +DEFINE_GUARD(mutex_acquire, struct mutex_acquire *, mutex_lock(&_T->mutex),
> > + mutex_unlock(&_T->mutex))
> > +DEFINE_GUARD_COND(mutex_acquire, _try, mutex_trylock(&_T->mutex))
> > +DEFINE_GUARD_COND(mutex_acquire, _intr, mutex_lock_interruptible(&_T->mutex) == 0)
> > +DEFINE_ACQUIRE(mutex_intr_acquire, mutex, mutex_unlock,
> > + mutex_lock_interruptible)
> > +
> > +static inline int mutex_try_or_busy(struct mutex *lock)
> > +{
> > + int ret[] = { -EBUSY, 0 };
> > +
> > + return ret[mutex_trylock(lock)];
> > +}
> > +
> > +DEFINE_ACQUIRE(mutex_try_acquire, mutex, mutex_unlock,
> > + mutex_try_or_busy)
> > +
> > extern unsigned long mutex_get_owner(struct mutex *lock);
> >
> > #endif /* __LINUX_MUTEX_H */
>
> I'm terribly confused...
I suspect the disconnect is that this proposal adds safety where guard()
does not today. That was driven by the mistake that Linus caught in the
RFC [1]
at the same time I note that your patch is horribly broken. Look
at your change to drivers/cxl/core/mbox.c: you made it use
+ struct mutex *lock __drop(mutex_unlock) =
+ mutex_intr_acquire(&mds->poison.lock);
but then you didn't remove the existing unlocking, so that
function still has
[1]: http://lore.kernel.org/CAHk-=wgRPDGvofj1PU=NemF6iFu308pFZ=w5P+sQyOMGd978fA@mail.gmail.com
I.e. in my haste I forgot to cleanup a straggling open-coded
mutex_unlock(), but that is something the compiler warns about iff we
switch to parallel primitive universe.
> What's wrong with:
>
> CLASS(mutex_intr, lock)(&foo);
> if (IS_ERR(__guard_ptr(mutex_intr)(lock)))
> return __guard_ptr(mutex_intr)(lock);
__guard_ptr() returns NULL on error, not an ERR_PTR, but I get the gist.
> I mean, yeah __guard_ptr(mutex_intr) doesn't really roll of the tongue,
> but if that is the whole objection, surely we can try and fix that bit
> instead of building an entire parallel set of primitives.
Yes, the "entire set of parallel primitives" was the least confident
part of this proposal, but the more I look, that is a feature (albeit
inelegant) not a bug.
Today one can write:
guard(mutex_intr)(&lock);
...
mutex_unlock(lock);
...and the compiler does not tell you that the lock may not even be held
upon return, nor that this is unlocking a lock that will also be
unlocked when @lock goes out of scope.
The only type safety today is the BUILD_BUG_ON() in scoped_cond_guard()
when passing in the wrong lock class.
So the proposal is, if you know what you are doing, or have a need to
switch back and forth between scope-based and explicit unlock for a give
lock, use the base primitives. If instead you want to fully convert to
scope-based lock management (excise all explicit unlock() calls) *and*
you want the compiler to validate the conversion, switch to the _acquire
parallel universe.
> Notably, you're going to be running into trouble the moment you want to
> use your acquire stuff on things like raw_spin_trylock_irqsave(),
> because all that already wraps the return type, in order to hide the
> flags thing etc.
I think that is solvable, but only with a new DEFINE_LOCK_GUARD_1() that
knows that the @lock member of class_##name##_t needs to be cast to the
base lock type.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-05-07 21:18 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-05-07 7:21 [PATCH 0/7] Introduce DEFINE_ACQUIRE(), a scoped_cond_guard() replacement Dan Williams
2025-05-07 7:21 ` [PATCH 1/7] cleanup: Introduce DEFINE_ACQUIRE() a CLASS() for conditional locking Dan Williams
2025-05-07 9:32 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-05-07 21:18 ` Dan Williams [this message]
2025-05-08 11:00 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-05-09 5:04 ` Dan Williams
2025-05-09 10:40 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-05-10 1:11 ` dan.j.williams
2025-05-12 10:50 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-05-12 18:25 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-05-12 18:58 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-05-12 20:39 ` Linus Torvalds
2025-05-13 7:09 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-05-13 8:50 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-05-13 19:46 ` Linus Torvalds
2025-05-13 20:06 ` Al Viro
2025-05-13 20:31 ` Al Viro
2025-05-13 21:28 ` Linus Torvalds
2025-05-17 9:17 ` David Laight
2025-05-14 6:46 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-05-13 3:32 ` dan.j.williams
2025-05-09 19:10 ` kernel test robot
2025-05-07 7:21 ` [PATCH 2/7] cxl/decoder: Move decoder register programming to a helper Dan Williams
2025-05-07 7:21 ` [PATCH 3/7] cxl/decoder: Drop pointless locking Dan Williams
2025-05-07 7:21 ` [PATCH 4/7] cxl/region: Split commit_store() into __commit() and queue_reset() helpers Dan Williams
2025-05-07 7:21 ` [PATCH 5/7] cxl/region: Move ready-to-probe state check to a helper Dan Williams
2025-05-07 7:21 ` [PATCH 6/7] cxl/region: Introduce CLASS(cxl_decoder_detach...) consolidate multiple paths Dan Williams
2025-05-08 7:44 ` kernel test robot
2025-05-07 7:21 ` [PATCH 7/7] cleanup: Create an rwsem conditional acquisition class Dan Williams
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