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From: "Huang, Ying" <ying.huang@intel.com>
To: Gregory Price <gregory.price@memverge.com>
Cc: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>,  "tj@kernel.org" <tj@kernel.org>,
	 "John Groves" <john@jagalactic.com>,
	 Gregory Price <gourry.memverge@gmail.com>,
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Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v4 0/3] memcg weighted interleave mempolicy control
Date: Tue, 05 Dec 2023 17:01:51 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87fs0h2fb4.fsf@yhuang6-desk2.ccr.corp.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZW3ZFDeTs7xotImL@memverge.com> (Gregory Price's message of "Mon, 4 Dec 2023 08:50:12 -0500")

Gregory Price <gregory.price@memverge.com> writes:

> On Mon, Dec 04, 2023 at 04:19:02PM +0800, Huang, Ying wrote:
>> Gregory Price <gregory.price@memverge.com> writes:
>> 
>> > If the structure is built as a matrix of (cpu_node,mem_nodes),
>> > the you can also optimize based on the node the task is running on.
>> 
>> The matrix stuff makes the situation complex.  If people do need
>> something like that, they can just use set_memorypolicy2() with user
>> specified weights.  I still believe that "make simple stuff simple, and
>> complex stuff possible".
>> 
>
> I don't think it's particularly complex, since we already have a
> distance matrix for numa nodes:
>
> available: 2 nodes (0-1)
> ... snip ...
> node distances:
> node   0   1
>   0:  10  21
>   1:  21  10
>
> This would follow the same thing, just adjustable for bandwidth.

We add complexity for requirement. Not there's something similar
already.

> I personally find the (src,dst) matrix very important for flexibility.

With set_memorypolicy2(), I think we have the needed flexibility for
users needs the complexity.

> But if there is particular pushback against it, having a one dimensional
> array is better than not having it, so I will take what I can get.

TBH, I don't think that we really need that.  Especially given we will
have set_memorypolicy2().

>> > That feels very intuitive, deals with many race condition issues, and
>> > the global setting can actually be implemented without the need for
>> > set_mempolicy2 at all - which is certainly a bonus.
>> >
>> > Would love more thoughts here.  Will have a new RFC with set_mempolicy2,
>> > mbind2, and MPOL_WEIGHTED_INTERLEAVE soon that demonstrate the above.
>> 
>> Thanks for doing all these!
>> 
>
> Someone's got to :]
>

--
Best Regards,
Huang, Ying

  reply	other threads:[~2023-12-05  9:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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2023-11-09  0:25 ` [RFC PATCH v4 0/3] memcg weighted interleave mempolicy control Gregory Price
2023-11-09  0:25   ` [RFC PATCH v4 1/3] mm/memcontrol: implement memcg.interleave_weights Gregory Price
2023-11-09  0:25   ` [RFC PATCH v4 2/3] mm/mempolicy: implement weighted interleave Gregory Price
2023-11-10 15:26     ` Ravi Jonnalagadda
2023-11-09  0:25   ` [RFC PATCH v4 3/3] Documentation: sysfs entries for cgroup.memory.interleave_weights Gregory Price
2023-11-09 10:02   ` [RFC PATCH v4 0/3] memcg weighted interleave mempolicy control Michal Hocko
2023-11-09 15:10     ` Gregory Price
2023-11-09 16:34     ` Gregory Price
2023-11-10  9:05       ` Michal Hocko
2023-11-10 21:24         ` Gregory Price
2023-11-09 22:48   ` John Groves
2023-11-10 22:05     ` tj
2023-11-10 22:29       ` Gregory Price
2023-11-11  3:05         ` tj
2023-11-11  3:42           ` Gregory Price
2023-11-11 11:16             ` tj
2023-11-11 23:54               ` Dan Williams
2023-11-13  2:22                 ` Gregory Price
2023-11-14  9:43             ` Michal Hocko
2023-11-14 15:50               ` Gregory Price
2023-11-14 17:01                 ` Michal Hocko
2023-11-14 17:49                   ` Gregory Price
2023-11-15  5:56                     ` Huang, Ying
2023-12-04  3:33                       ` Gregory Price
2023-12-04  8:19                         ` Huang, Ying
2023-12-04 13:50                           ` Gregory Price
2023-12-05  9:01                             ` Huang, Ying [this message]
2023-12-05 14:47                               ` Gregory Price
2023-12-06  0:50                                 ` Huang, Ying
2023-12-06  2:01                                   ` Gregory Price
2023-11-10  6:16   ` Huang, Ying
2023-11-10 19:54     ` Gregory Price
2023-11-13  1:31       ` Huang, Ying
2023-11-13  2:28         ` Gregory Price

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