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From: "Zhijian Li (Fujitsu)" <lizhijian@fujitsu.com>
To: Alejandro Lucero Palau <alucerop@amd.com>,
	Gregory Price <gourry@gourry.net>
Cc: "linux-cxl@vger.kernel.org" <linux-cxl@vger.kernel.org>,
	Jonathan Cameron <jonathan.cameron@huawei.com>,
	Dave Jiang <dave.jiang@intel.com>,
	Alison Schofield <alison.schofield@intel.com>,
	Vishal Verma <vishal.l.verma@intel.com>,
	Ira Weiny <ira.weiny@intel.com>,
	Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] cxl: Allow reprogramming misconfigured hdm decoders
Date: Wed, 7 May 2025 06:42:22 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8f7019ed-a7a2-4cc8-9a8b-e7f96cf5c8d7@fujitsu.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200f8614-34ba-42b4-aa8c-560d3052e496@amd.com>



On 30/04/2025 16:42, Alejandro Lucero Palau wrote:
>>
>> Hi Gregory,
>>
>> Thank you for the feedback. Based on current CXL driver behavior, user-space tools
>> can indeed reprogram firmware-provisioned HDM decoders in practice.
>>
>> For example, after a successful boot, one may destroy the auto-constructed region
>> via cxl destroy-region and create a new different region.
>> This indicates that the kernel does not inherently lock down these decoders.
>>
>> As for the locking rationale you mentioned, platform vendors might enforce their policies
>> through mechanisms like the *Lock-On-Commit* in CXL HDM Decoder n Control Register
>>
>> While platform vendors may have valid considerations (as you noted), from a driver and
>> end-user perspective, depending solely on firmware updates to fix transient failures
>> is not smooth sometimes 🙂.
>>
> 
> Hi Zhijan,
> 
> 
>  From my current effort trying to get a Type2 device properly initialized by the kernel after the BIOS/platform firmware doing whatever it needs to do, I really think we should have a wider discussion regarding this sync, and maybe to have first something from the kernel expectation of what the BIOS should and should not do.
> 
> 
> If this makes sense, I could work on a initial draft about the outline or points to discuss about this.
> 

Hi Alejandro,

Thanks for sharing this concrete pain point. Your experience highlights a critical gap in
"defining clear handoff protocols between firmware and the kernel" for CXL device initialization.
I agree that we need a community-driven effort to establish these expectations.


I’m happy to see your draft or thread for deeper discussion.

Best,
Zhijian


> 
> Thank you

  reply	other threads:[~2025-05-07  6:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-04-30  1:29 [RFC PATCH] cxl: Allow reprogramming misconfigured hdm decoders Li Zhijian
2025-04-30  2:17 ` Gregory Price
2025-04-30  3:24   ` Zhijian Li (Fujitsu)
2025-04-30  8:42     ` Alejandro Lucero Palau
2025-05-07  6:42       ` Zhijian Li (Fujitsu) [this message]
2025-05-07 11:10         ` Alejandro Lucero Palau

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