From: Gregory Price <gourry@gourry.net>
To: Jonathan Cameron <Jonathan.Cameron@huawei.com>
Cc: linux-cxl@vger.kernel.org, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
svetly.todorov@memverge.com, nifan.cxl@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC v3 3/3] mhsld: implement MHSLD device
Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2024 12:03:02 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Z1xoxtKOOmewrgIg@PC2K9PVX.TheFacebook.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20241213161836.000073d6@huawei.com>
On Fri, Dec 13, 2024 at 04:18:36PM +0000, Jonathan Cameron wrote:
> On Thu, 12 Dec 2024 14:52:02 -0500
> Gregory Price <gourry@gourry.net> wrote:
>
> I don't think anyone is going to do 2MiB granularity on a real device
> (or at least not for bulk capacity) so the necessary data may not be that large.
> Obviously the cost of updating it will be higher, but meh, that's not that
> common an operation.
>
> >
> > > and we can have
> > > richer info. Having to chat to each qmp interface independently works fine is
> > > also a bit more complex than I think we would eventually want.
> > >
> >
> > This is a small component in someone's fabric manager that translates their
> > requests into QMP commands. Whatever we ultimately decide on, the complexity
> > here is about the same.
>
> It's the qmp commands to a bunch of different qemu instances pretending to be one
> Multi Head device.
> Sure we can insert a proxy to act as that one, but then we more or less
> have an external process mediating that.
>
I'm not against changing this, I just think it's going to increase complexity
for little value.
I personally like the idea of keeping it the way it is and slapping a small
proxy on top that emulates the "out of band" interface to the device - but
all it does behind the scenes is send out a QMP command (that already exists)
to a guest that registered itself with the proxy.
This separates the complexity of implementing FMAPI functionality and the
complexity of how an individual instance of QEMU go about handling
add/access/remove semantics for DCD events.
The annoying thought experiment here is when someone wants their in-band
host interface to have access to the FMAPI
great now i've made myself grumpy
> >
> > > Having a solution in place though will make it much easier to move towards
> > > an eventual upstreamable solution. This is a great place to start from!
> > >
> > > Jonathan
> > >
> > > > +/*
> > > > + * We limit the number of heads to prevent the shared state
> > > > + * region from becoming a major memory hog. We need 512MB of
> > > > + * memory space to track 8-host ownership of 4GB of memory in
> > > > + * blocks of 2MB. This can change if the block size is increased.
> > >
> > > I'm lost what makes up that size?
> > >
> >
> > I think the math is wrong here, we may have calculated based on
> > a larger capacity. I need to go back and look at how we came to 512MB.
> 4TB maybe?
>
> Jonathan
Yeah that's probably what it was. I think that's what I was basing it off of
at the time.
~Gregory
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-12-13 17:03 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-10-18 16:12 [PATCH RFC v3 0/3] cxl: Multi-headed Single Logical Device (MHSLD) Gregory Price
2024-10-18 16:12 ` [PATCH RFC v3 1/3] cxl-mailbox-utils: move CXLUpdateDCExtentListInPl into header Gregory Price
2024-10-18 16:12 ` [PATCH RFC v3 2/3] cxl_type3: add MHD callbacks Gregory Price
2024-12-12 17:12 ` Jonathan Cameron
2024-10-18 16:12 ` [PATCH RFC v3 3/3] mhsld: implement MHSLD device Gregory Price
2024-12-12 17:40 ` Jonathan Cameron
2024-12-12 19:52 ` Gregory Price
2024-12-13 16:18 ` Jonathan Cameron
2024-12-13 17:03 ` Gregory Price [this message]
2025-01-24 14:12 ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-01-24 15:50 ` Gregory Price
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