From: Shiyang Ruan <ruansy.fnst@fujitsu.com>
To: Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>
Cc: linux-cxl@vger.kernel.org, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
Jonathan.Cameron@huawei.com, dave@stgolabs.net,
ira.weiny@intel.com, alison.schofield@intel.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 2/2] cxl/core: add poison creation event handler
Date: Tue, 28 May 2024 18:13:07 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <cda2935f-d94b-4d01-a46e-5dd69d766d51@fujitsu.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <28c92491-a892-4c9a-8c92-5d039681f817@fujitsu.com>
在 2024/5/24 23:15, Shiyang Ruan 写道:
>
>
> 在 2024/5/22 14:45, Dan Williams 写道:
>> Shiyang Ruan wrote:
>> [..]
>>>>> My expectation is MF_ACTION_REQUIRED is not appropriate for CXL event
>>>>> reported errors since action is only required for direct consumption
>>>>> events and those need not be reported through the device event queue.
>>>> Got it.
>>>
>>> I'm not very sure about 'Host write/read' type. In my opinion, these
>>> two types of event should be sent from device when CPU is accessing a
>>> bad memory address, they could be thought of a sync event which needs
>>
>> Hmm, no that's not my understanding of a sync event. I expect when error
>> notifications are synchronous the CPU is guaranteed not to make forward
>> progress past the point of encountering the error. MSI-signaled
>> component-events are always asynchronous by that definition because the
>> CPU is free running while the interrupt is in-flight.
>
> Understood. In OS-First path, it couldn't be a sync event.
>
>>
>>> the 'MF_ACTION_REQUIRED' flag. Then, we can determine the flag by the
>>> types like this:
>>> - CXL_EVENT_TRANSACTION_READ | CXL_EVENT_TRANSACTION_WRITE
>>> => MF_ACTION_REQUIRED
>>> - CXL_EVENT_TRANSACTION_INJECT_POISON => MF_SW_SIMULATED
>>> - others => 0
>>
>> I doubt any reasonable policy can be inferred from the transaction type.
>> Consider that the CPU itself does not take a sychronous exception when
>> writes encounter poison. At most those are flagged via CMCI
>> (corrected machine check interrupt). The only events that cause
>> exceptions are CPU reads that consume poison. The device has no idea
>> whether read events are coming from a CPU or a DMA event.
>>
>> MF_SW_SIMULATED is purely for software simulated poison events as
>> injected poison can stil cause system fatal damage if the poison is
>> ingested in an unrecoverable path.
>>
>> So, I think all CXL poison notification events should trigger an action
>> optional memory_failure(). I expect this needs to make sure that
>> duplicates re not a problem. I.e. in the case of CPU consumption of CXL
>> poison, that causes a synchronous MF_ACTION_REQUIRED event via the MCE
>> path *and* it may trigger the device to send an error record for the
>> same page. As far as I can see, duplicate reports (MCE + CXL device) are
>> unavoidable.
>
> I think my previous understanding about MCE was wrong. Here is my
> current understanding after some research:
>
> Since CXL device is a memory device, while CPU consumes a poison page of
> CXL device, it always triggers a MCE by interrupt (INT18), no matter
> which-First path is configured. This is the first report. Then
> currently, in FW-First path, the poison event is transferred according
> to the following process: CXL device -> firmware -> OS:ACPI->APEI->GHES
> -> MCE. This is the second one. These two MCEs represent the same
> poisoning page, which is the so-called "duplicate report", right? Now,
> the memory_failure() handling I'm trying to add in OS-First path, is
> also another duplicate report.
Let me summarize:
CPU accesses bad memory on CXL device, then
-> MCE (INT18), *always* report (1)
-> * FW-First (implemented)
-> CXL device -> FW -> OS:ACPI->APEI->GHES -> MCE (2)
* OS-First (not implemented yet, I'm working on it)
-> CXL device -> MSI -> OS:CXL driver -> memory_failure() (2)
Then (1) and (2) are duplicated.
Looking forward your comment. Thanks in advance!
--
Ruan.
>
> So, the primary issue to be solved is the second MCE report. As you
> suggested, make it a optional action.
>
> Please correct me if I'm wrong. Thank you very much!
>
> --
> Ruan.
prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-05-28 10:13 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-04-17 7:50 [PATCH v3 0/2] cxl: add poison creation event handler Shiyang Ruan
2024-04-17 7:50 ` [PATCH v3 1/2] cxl/core: correct length of DPA field masks Shiyang Ruan
2024-04-23 17:35 ` Ira Weiny
2024-04-23 17:35 ` Dan Williams
2024-04-23 17:42 ` Alison Schofield
2024-04-23 21:04 ` Ira Weiny
2024-04-25 10:05 ` Shiyang Ruan
2024-04-25 16:04 ` Ira Weiny
2024-04-30 21:00 ` Alison Schofield
2024-05-03 11:37 ` Shiyang Ruan
2024-04-17 7:50 ` [PATCH v3 2/2] cxl/core: add poison creation event handler Shiyang Ruan
2024-04-17 17:30 ` Dave Jiang
2024-04-18 9:01 ` Shiyang Ruan
2024-04-21 12:14 ` kernel test robot
2024-04-23 17:57 ` Ira Weiny
2024-05-03 10:42 ` Shiyang Ruan
2024-05-08 16:15 ` Jonathan Cameron
2024-04-23 18:40 ` Dan Williams
2024-05-03 11:32 ` Shiyang Ruan
2024-05-21 5:35 ` Shiyang Ruan
2024-05-22 6:45 ` Dan Williams
2024-05-24 15:15 ` Shiyang Ruan
2024-05-28 10:13 ` Shiyang Ruan [this message]
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