From: "Sricharan" <sricharan-sgV2jX0FEOL9JmXXK+q4OQ@public.gmane.org>
To: 'Arnd Bergmann' <arnd-r2nGTMty4D4@public.gmane.org>
Cc: devicetree-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
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Subject: RE: [PATCH V5 6/7] iommu/msm: Use writel_relaxed and add a barrier
Date: Wed, 25 May 2016 22:19:29 +0530 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <000901d1b6a5$6dcd5f90$49681eb0$@codeaurora.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7715835.BXgVNoY5UO@wuerfel>
Hi Arnd,
>> >* On other platforms, polling the register is likely required because
>> > an MMIO write is "posted", meaning that a sync after writel() will
>> > only ensure that it has left the CPU write queue, but it may still be
>> > on the bus fabric and whatever side-effects are triggered by the
>> > write are normally not guaranteed to be completed even after the
>> > 'sync'. You need to check the datasheet for your IOMMU to find out
>> > whether the 'dsb' instruction actually has any effect on the IOMMU.
>> > If not, then neither the barrier that you add here nor the barrier
>> > in the following writel() is sufficient.
>> >
>> Thanks for the detailed explanation.
>> i will check this. So with this, i think that if the iommu does not
>> support polling for its status, then it should listen to 'dsb' otherwise
>> there will no be no way of make it coherent ?
>
>It's more likely that you have to do a readl() after the writel() to
>any address inside of the device in order to ensure the writel()
>has completed, but that is something that the hardware manual for
>the iommu should describe.
>
ok, get it. So will do it as required for here.
>> >* The one barrier that is normally required in an IOMMU is between
>> > updating the in-memory page tables and the following MMIO store
>> > that triggers the TLB flush for that entry. This barrier is
>> > implied by writel() but not writel_relaxed(). If you don't have
>> > a hardware page table walker in your IOMMU, you don't need to worry
>> > about this.
>> >
>> To get my understanding correct here, is the barrier required here because
>> of speculative fetch ?
>
>It doesn't have to be a speculative fetch, it could also be a normal
>fetch triggered by a DMA. The point is that the CPU is free to reorder
>the store to (io page table) memory relative to the store to the
>IOMMU flush register, and when you directly follow up with a store to
>the DMA master that triggers a transfer, this transfer can hit the
>IOMMU and cause the stale page table entry to be read.
>
>I guess in practice the barrier that comes before the MMIO write to the
>DMA master would ensure ordering of the DMA after both the IOPTE
>update and the MMIO flush (unless there was the speculative fetch you
>mentioned), but this is where I'm no longer confident enough in my
>pwn understanding of th ordering rules to rely on that. Having the
>barrier between the IOPTE update and the flush certainly leaves
>no room for ambiguity.
Ok understand. Also i think speculative access if any, should
go away if unmap is done first and then remap by clients.
Regards,
Sricharan
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-05-25 16:49 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-05-20 10:54 [PATCH V5 0/7] iommu/msm: Add DT adaptation and generic bindings support Sricharan R
2016-05-20 10:54 ` [PATCH V5 1/7] iommu/msm: Add DT adaptation Sricharan R
2016-05-20 10:54 ` [PATCH V5 2/7] documentation: iommu: Add bindings for msm,iommu-v0 ip Sricharan R
[not found] ` <1463741694-1735-3-git-send-email-sricharan-sgV2jX0FEOL9JmXXK+q4OQ@public.gmane.org>
2016-05-23 21:23 ` Rob Herring
[not found] ` <1463741694-1735-1-git-send-email-sricharan-sgV2jX0FEOL9JmXXK+q4OQ@public.gmane.org>
2016-05-20 10:54 ` [PATCH V5 3/7] iommu/msm: Move the contents from msm_iommu_dev.c to msm_iommu.c Sricharan R
2016-05-23 8:10 ` [PATCH V5 0/7] iommu/msm: Add DT adaptation and generic bindings support Srinivas Kandagatla
2016-05-20 10:54 ` [PATCH V5 4/7] iommu/msm: Add support for generic master bindings Sricharan R
2016-05-20 10:54 ` [PATCH V5 5/7] iommu/msm: use generic ARMV7S short descriptor pagetable ops Sricharan R
2016-05-20 10:54 ` [PATCH V5 6/7] iommu/msm: Use writel_relaxed and add a barrier Sricharan R
[not found] ` <1463741694-1735-7-git-send-email-sricharan-sgV2jX0FEOL9JmXXK+q4OQ@public.gmane.org>
2016-05-20 11:44 ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-05-20 12:20 ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-05-23 6:05 ` Sricharan
2016-05-24 14:00 ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-05-25 10:45 ` Sricharan
2016-05-25 12:18 ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-05-25 13:19 ` Sricharan
2016-05-25 14:15 ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-05-25 16:49 ` Sricharan [this message]
2016-05-20 10:54 ` [PATCH V5 7/7] iommu/msm: Remove driver BROKEN Sricharan R
2016-05-23 2:53 ` [PATCH V5 0/7] iommu/msm: Add DT adaptation and generic bindings support Archit Taneja
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