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From: Dragan Simic <dsimic@manjaro.org>
To: "Uwe Kleine-König" <ukleinek@kernel.org>
Cc: Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzk@kernel.org>,
	Daniel Golle <daniel@makrotopia.org>,
	Aurelien Jarno <aurelien@aurel32.net>,
	Olivia Mackall <olivia@selenic.com>,
	Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>,
	Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org>,
	Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzk+dt@kernel.org>,
	Conor Dooley <conor+dt@kernel.org>,
	Heiko Stuebner <heiko@sntech.de>,
	Philipp Zabel <p.zabel@pengutronix.de>,
	Sebastian Reichel <sebastian.reichel@collabora.com>,
	Anand Moon <linux.amoon@gmail.com>,
	Sascha Hauer <s.hauer@pengutronix.de>,
	Martin Kaiser <martin@kaiser.cx>,
	Ard Biesheuvel <ardb@kernel.org>,
	linux-crypto@vger.kernel.org, devicetree@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-rockchip@lists.infradead.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 2/3] hwrng: add Rockchip SoC hwrng driver
Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2024 12:29:33 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <07fba45d99e9eabf9bcca71b86651074@manjaro.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ead26406-dd3b-491c-b6ab-11002a2db11a@kernel.org>

Hello Uwe,

On 2024-06-22 00:16, Uwe Kleine-König wrote:
> On 6/21/24 20:13, Dragan Simic wrote:
>> On 2024-06-21 11:57, Krzysztof Kozlowski wrote:
>>> On 21/06/2024 03:25, Daniel Golle wrote:
>>>> From: Aurelien Jarno <aurelien@aurel32.net>
>> 
>> [snip]
>> 
>>>> +    pm_runtime_set_autosuspend_delay(dev, 
>>>> RK_RNG_AUTOSUSPEND_DELAY);
>>>> +    pm_runtime_use_autosuspend(dev);
>>>> +    pm_runtime_enable(dev);
>>>> +
>>>> +    ret = devm_hwrng_register(dev, &rk_rng->rng);
>>>> +    if (ret)
>>>> +        return dev_err_probe(&pdev->dev, ret, "Failed to register 
>>>> Rockchip hwrng\n");
>>>> +
>>>> +    dev_info(&pdev->dev, "Registered Rockchip hwrng\n");
>>> 
>>> Drop, driver should be silent on success.
>> 
>> I respectfully disagree.  Many drivers print a single line upon
>> successful probing, which I find very useful.  In this particular
>> case, it's even more useful, because some people may be concerned
>> about the use of hardware TRNGs, so we should actually make sure
>> to announce it.
> 
> I agree to Krzysztof here. From the POV of a driver author, your own
> driver is very important and while you write it, it really interests
> *you* if the driver is successfully probed. However from a system
> perspective these are annoying: There are easily >50 devices[1] on a
> system, if all of these print a message in probe, you have little 
> chance
> to see the relevant messages. Even if every driver author thinks their
> work is a special snow flake that is worth announcing, in practice 
> users
> only care about your driver if there is a problem. Additionally each
> message takes time and so delays the boot process. Additionally each
> message takes place in the printk ring buffer and so edges out earlier
> messages that might be more important.

Well, I don't find those messages annoying, for the drivers I've had
nothing to do with.  Also, in my experience, 99.9% of users don't care
about the kernel messages at all, be it everything hunky-dory, or be
it something really wrong somewhere.

> So +1 for dropping the dev_info() or at least using dev_debug() for it.
> 
> Best regards
> Uwe
> 
> [1] On my laptop if have:
> 
> 	$ find /sys/devices -name driver | wc -l
> 	87
> 
>     On a Raspberrypi it yields 66.

  reply	other threads:[~2024-06-22 10:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-06-21  1:24 [PATCH v3 0/3] hwrng: add hwrng support for Rockchip RK3568 Daniel Golle
2024-06-21  1:25 ` [PATCH v3 1/3] dt-bindings: RNG: Add Rockchip RNG bindings Daniel Golle
2024-06-21  9:12   ` Diederik de Haas
2024-06-21  9:39     ` Diederik de Haas
2024-06-21  9:52   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2024-06-21  1:25 ` [PATCH v3 2/3] hwrng: add Rockchip SoC hwrng driver Daniel Golle
2024-06-21  9:32   ` Diederik de Haas
2024-06-21  9:57   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2024-06-21 10:18     ` Chen-Yu Tsai
2024-06-21 18:13     ` Dragan Simic
2024-06-21 22:16       ` Uwe Kleine-König
2024-06-22 10:29         ` Dragan Simic [this message]
2024-06-22 20:26           ` Heiko Stübner
2024-06-22 20:45             ` Dragan Simic
2024-06-23  0:20               ` Uwe Kleine-König
2024-06-23  5:41                 ` Dragan Simic
2024-06-22 18:05       ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2024-06-22 19:10         ` Dragan Simic
2024-06-21 10:04   ` Chen-Yu Tsai
2024-06-21 11:41   ` Philipp Zabel
2024-06-21  1:25 ` [PATCH v3 3/3] arm64: dts: rockchip: add DT entry for RNG to RK356x Daniel Golle
2024-06-21  9:36   ` Diederik de Haas
2024-06-21  9:49     ` Heiko Stübner
2024-06-22  9:58 ` [PATCH v3 0/3] hwrng: add hwrng support for Rockchip RK3568 Aurelien Jarno

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