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From: Arnd Bergmann <arnd-r2nGTMty4D4@public.gmane.org>
To: Geert Uytterhoeven <geert-Td1EMuHUCqxL1ZNQvxDV9g@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Sascha Hauer <s.hauer-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org>,
	Rob Herring <robherring2-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	Laurent Pinchart
	<laurent.pinchart-ryLnwIuWjnjg/C1BVhZhaw@public.gmane.org>,
	"devicetree-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org"
	<devicetree-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
	SH-Linux <linux-sh-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
	Wolfram Sang <wsa-z923LK4zBo2bacvFa/9K2g@public.gmane.org>,
	devicetree-spec-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] Serial port aliases in DT
Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2014 12:49:04 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <10140085.kzh1WZQQW2@wuerfel> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAMuHMdVJ8Jid=bdWLb7g5MP5dFOwDkvoHEbFH4nQD5bWp-2sxw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>

On Friday 28 March 2014 11:40:03 Geert Uytterhoeven wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 11:28 AM, Arnd Bergmann <arnd-r2nGTMty4D4@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> > On Friday 28 March 2014 09:39:22 Geert Uytterhoeven wrote:
> >> On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 9:30 AM, Arnd Bergmann <arnd-r2nGTMty4D4@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> >> > On Friday 28 March 2014 09:09:23 Geert Uytterhoeven wrote:
> >> >> On the Renesas SoCs, where this thread started, you also have different
> >> >> types of IP blocks providing similar functionality on the same SoC.
> >> >> E.g. 3 types of serial ports, 2 types of i2c, (at least) 2 types of spi...
> >> >> Hence one more level of confusion (is SoC serial0 the first serial port of
> >> >> type A, B, or C?).
> >> >
> >> > The 'serial' aliases are defined to refer to UARTs only, there is no debate
> >> > about that.
> >>
> >> All 3 serial port types are UARTs.
> >>
> >> For the serial ports, they are sufficiently similar to use the same driver.
> >> For i2c and spi, that's not the case, and they use different drivers.
> >
> > Ok, I see. I just misunderstood what you meant.
> >
> > The aliases are really meant to put all the uarts into a flat numbering space,
> > regardless of the driver, and you can mix them them in any possible way. If
> > a board uses one uart of each type, then serial0 through serial2 should
> > point to the three that are used, but not the ones that aren't connected.
> 
> So we should move all aliases from *.dtsi to <board>.dts.

Yes. I was originally thinking that it might be good to have a default
alias list for each SoC, but I'm leaning more towards making it per-board
only.

> > Using a separate name space for each driver keeps causing more problems than
> > it solves, and we really should be addressing this. One way to do this
> > that I think would handle it nicely is to make it optional for a uart_driver
> > to provide a major/minor number range and device name for
> > uart_register_driver, and move the ttyS%d namespace handling from the 8250
> > driver into serial_core.c. There are a couple of open questions regarding
> > how to implement backwards compatibility with the existing behavior, but
> > I think it can be done.
> 
> Not serial_core.c. That's deprecated for new drivers, and we want a common
> namespace across all serial drivers.

Ah, right. I have a short memory and confused tty_port with uart_port.

	Arnd
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-03-28 11:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-03-10 11:59 [RFC] Serial port aliases in DT Laurent Pinchart
2014-03-10 12:38 ` Wolfram Sang
2014-03-11 11:56   ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-03-11 12:46     ` Wolfram Sang
2014-03-12 10:40       ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-03-12 10:45         ` Wolfram Sang
2014-03-10 12:57 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-03-11 11:57   ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-03-27 12:50     ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-03-27 13:54       ` Rob Herring
2014-03-27 14:43         ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-03-27 15:18         ` Sascha Hauer
     [not found]           ` <20140327151829.GX17250-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org>
2014-03-27 18:26             ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-03-27 18:34               ` Pawel Moll
2014-03-27 20:07               ` Wolfram Sang
2014-03-28  7:28               ` Sascha Hauer
     [not found]                 ` <20140328072827.GY17250-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org>
2014-03-28  8:09                   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2014-03-28  8:30                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-03-28  8:39                       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
     [not found]                         ` <CAMuHMdVYhGGt7+fR4oHzf-hDvTOWbHfhM2g92eo3RqULd6yR2A-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-03-28 10:28                           ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-03-28 10:40                             ` Geert Uytterhoeven
     [not found]                               ` <CAMuHMdVJ8Jid=bdWLb7g5MP5dFOwDkvoHEbFH4nQD5bWp-2sxw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-03-28 11:49                                 ` Arnd Bergmann [this message]
2014-03-28 14:46                   ` Rob Herring
2014-03-27 20:34             ` Rob Herring

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