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From: Jonathan Cameron <jic23@kernel.org>
To: Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org>, Fabrice Gasnier <fabrice.gasnier@st.com>
Cc: linux@armlinux.org.uk, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	devicetree@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-iio@vger.kernel.org, mark.rutland@arm.com,
	mcoquelin.stm32@gmail.com, alexandre.torgue@st.com,
	lars@metafoo.de, knaack.h@gmx.de, pmeerw@pmeerw.net,
	benjamin.gaignard@linaro.org, benjamin.gaignard@st.com,
	linus.walleij@linaro.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 1/6] dt-bindings: iio: introduce trigger providers, consumers
Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2017 12:13:36 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <12a6a2f8-9ff6-a4f0-c9a2-c7de037019ef@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <948e5b96-7a8f-406d-6d03-d129d1b2ce54@kernel.org>

On 05/03/17 11:43, Jonathan Cameron wrote:
> On 03/03/17 06:21, Rob Herring wrote:
>> On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 05:51:14PM +0100, Fabrice Gasnier wrote:
>>> Document iio provider and consumer bindings.
>>>
>>> Signed-off-by: Fabrice Gasnier <fabrice.gasnier@st.com>
>>> ---
>>>  .../devicetree/bindings/iio/iio-bindings.txt       | 38 ++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>  1 file changed, 38 insertions(+)
>>>
>>> diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/iio/iio-bindings.txt b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/iio/iio-bindings.txt
>>> index 68d6f8c..01765e9 100644
>>> --- a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/iio/iio-bindings.txt
>>> +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/iio/iio-bindings.txt
>>> @@ -95,3 +95,41 @@ vdd channel is connected to output 0 of the &ref device.
>>>  		io-channels = <&adc 10>, <&adc 11>;
>>>  		io-channel-names = "adc1", "adc2";
>>>  	};
>>> +
>>> +==IIO trigger providers==
>>> +Sources of IIO triggers can be represented by any node in the device
>>> +tree. Those nodes are designated as IIO trigger providers. IIO trigger
>>> +consumer uses a phandle and an IIO trigger specifier to connect to an
>>> +IIO trigger provider.
>>> +An IIO trigger specifier is an array of one or more cells identifying
>>> +the IIO trigger output on a device. The length of an IIO trigger
>>> +specifier is defined by the value of a #io-trigger-cells property in
>>> +the IIO trigger provider node.
>>> +
>>> +Required properties:
>>> +#io-trigger-cells:
>>> +		Number of cells in an IIO trigger specifier; Typically
>>> +		0 for nodes with a simple IIO trigger output.
>>> +
>>> +Example:
>>> +	trig0: interrupt-trigger0 {
>>> +		#io-trigger-cells = <0>;
>>> +		compatible = "interrupt-trigger";
>>> +		interrupts = <11 0>;
>>> +		interrupt-parent = <&gpioa>;
>>> +	}
>>> +
>>> +==IIO trigger consumers==
>>> +Required properties:
>>> +- io-triggers:	List of phandle representing the IIO trigger specifier.
>>> +
>>> +Optional properties:
>>> +- io-trigger-names :
>>> +		List of IIO trigger name strings that matches elements
>>> +		in 'io-triggers' list property.
>>> +
>>> +Example:
>>> +	some_trigger_consumer {
>>> +		io-triggers = <&trig0>;
>>> +		io-trigger-names = "mytrig";
>>> +	}
>>
>> I have some reservations about this. We could just as easily add the 
>> interrupt directly to the consumer node and use "trigger" for a standard 
>> interrupt name. So the question is whether this extra level of 
>> indirection is needed? 
> 
> First thing to note here, is that Fabrice's use of the generic interrupt
> trigger is an extremely 'unusual' one! Normal use case is that we have
> a random gpio pin providing interrupts to driver triggering on random
> devices - there need be no association between the two whatsoever.
> So what we are doing here is 'allowing' an interrupt to provide a trigger.
> It's not necessarily the one going to be used by any particular device
> driver.  The decision of which trigger to use is definitely one for
> userspace, not something that should be configured in to the device tree.
> 
> For this particular case you could in theory just do it by using an interrupt
> as you describe.  Ultimately though we should be able to play more complex
> games with this device and having it able to handle any trigger - which 
> includes those not using the direct hardware route.  It'll be up to the
> driver to figure out when it can use the fast method and when it can't.
> 
> Conversely, even when we are using this hardware route to drive the
> triggering it should be possible to hang off a device to be triggered
> by the interrupt via the kernel rather than directly. 
> 
> So from a device tree point of view we are just describing the fact that
> there is a pin, which may be used to trigger something.  What that something
> is, is a question for userspace not the device tree.
> 
Ah, I'm half asleep this morning.  Clearly there is a more general follow
up question.  If we are arguing these are generic, why are we setting
up the mapping in device tree?

My gut feeling is we shouldn't be.  So I think we need the first chunk
above but the latter part should be a job for userspace not the devicetree.

Jonathan
> Jonathan
>>
>> Rob
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  reply	other threads:[~2017-03-05 12:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-02-28 16:51 [PATCH v3 0/6] Add EXTI GPIO trigger support to STM32 ADC Fabrice Gasnier
2017-02-28 16:51 ` [PATCH v3 1/6] dt-bindings: iio: introduce trigger providers, consumers Fabrice Gasnier
2017-03-03  6:21   ` Rob Herring
2017-03-03  9:32     ` Fabrice Gasnier
     [not found]       ` <df84b9b2-dc93-287a-1ed2-52c818a64a01-qxv4g6HH51o@public.gmane.org>
2017-03-05 11:45         ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-03-05 11:43     ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-03-05 12:13       ` Jonathan Cameron [this message]
     [not found]         ` <12a6a2f8-9ff6-a4f0-c9a2-c7de037019ef-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2017-03-15 19:25           ` Rob Herring
2017-03-17 15:59             ` Fabrice Gasnier
     [not found]               ` <f44cccd8-a607-117d-e444-ea3174eced18-qxv4g6HH51o@public.gmane.org>
2017-03-19 22:58                 ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-02-28 16:51 ` [PATCH v3 2/6] iio: trigger: add OF support Fabrice Gasnier
2017-03-05 12:11   ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-03-14 15:22   ` Linus Walleij
2017-02-28 16:51 ` [PATCH v3 3/6] dt-bindings: iio: document interrupt trigger support Fabrice Gasnier
     [not found]   ` <1488300679-3259-4-git-send-email-fabrice.gasnier-qxv4g6HH51o@public.gmane.org>
2017-03-05 12:16     ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-03-15 19:29       ` Rob Herring
2017-02-28 16:51 ` [PATCH v3 4/6] iio: iio-interrupt-trigger: device-tree support Fabrice Gasnier
     [not found]   ` <1488300679-3259-5-git-send-email-fabrice.gasnier-qxv4g6HH51o@public.gmane.org>
2017-03-05 12:18     ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-02-28 16:51 ` [PATCH v3 5/6] dt-bindings: iio: stm32-adc: add external interrupt trigger Fabrice Gasnier
2017-02-28 16:51 ` [PATCH v3 6/6] iio: adc: stm32: add support for EXTI trigger Fabrice Gasnier
2017-03-03 11:45   ` Lars-Peter Clausen
2017-03-03 13:00     ` Fabrice Gasnier
2017-03-03 15:46       ` Lars-Peter Clausen
2017-03-03 15:47         ` Lars-Peter Clausen
     [not found]   ` <1488300679-3259-7-git-send-email-fabrice.gasnier-qxv4g6HH51o@public.gmane.org>
2017-03-05 12:21     ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-03-05 12:28       ` Jonathan Cameron

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