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Mon, 12 Oct 2026 07:18:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.codeweavers.com ([69.63.209.59]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id a92af1059eb24-169a1becb11sm28442350c88.4.2026.10.12.07.18.15 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 12 Oct 2026 07:18:17 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <13181dfa-b92c-43b5-ae12-912abaf79c41@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2026 22:18:13 +0800 Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: devicetree@vger.kernel.org List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 0/2] Add device tree for Acer Swift Go Pro AI (SFA14-11) To: Jianfeng Liu , kaipeng94@gmail.com Cc: andersson@kernel.org, conor+dt@kernel.org, devicetree@vger.kernel.org, konradybcio@kernel.org, krzk+dt@kernel.org, linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org, robh@kernel.org References: <20261012100325.38128-1-liujianfeng1994@gmail.com> Content-Language: en-US From: Jactry Zeng In-Reply-To: <20261012100325.38128-1-liujianfeng1994@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi, On 10/12/26 18:03, Jianfeng Liu wrote: > On Mon, 12 Oct 2026 16:15:19 +0800,Kaipeng Zeng wrote: >> Acer had a page about "Acer Swift Go Pro AI" but it was deleted, >> fortunately here is >> a snapshot: >> https://web.archive.org/web/20260314171131/https://www.acer.com.cn/ >> product_list.html?parentid=323 >> It's sold in China using the name "Acer 非凡 Go Pro AI". >> There is some discussion in the thread of my previous version: >> https://lore.kernel.org/linux-devicetree/20260729064538.19564-3- >> kaipeng94@gmail.com/ >> I have no idea if your "swift SFA14-11" is the same as my "Acer swift >> Go Pro AI". > On the naming: you're right, and thanks for the pointer — the SFA14-11 > series was indeed marketed in China as 宏碁非凡 Go Pro AI (my unit is > an SFA14-11-QWU1; the retail listings I found, e.g. on Suning, are other > SKUs like the SFA14-11-QGU1). One thing I noticed though: that retail page > has since been taken down, and Acer's support sites — global and China > alike [2] — identify the machine as plain "SFA14-11" within the Swift/非凡 > series, matching the DMI and the model string shown in Windows. So it > looks like "Swift SFA14-11" is the stable, support-level identity, while > "Go Pro AI" was the transient retail name. I think we are about confusing the product name and the model name here? It is clear that the product name is Acer Swift (aka '非凡' in Chinese) Go Pro AI; the link to Ubuntu stubble you provided also reveals this somehow. Also, IMHO, I think we can't use 'stable' to describe this situation. As soon as the product is produced, it was given a product/model name; unless Acer renames it, this is it. The vendor can also remove the support page that you referred to sometime in the future, just like they removed the product page; this isn't rare; I think we always shouldn't depend on it. As Kaipeng mentioned, there were more discussions about naming in the threads of his v1 and v2 to this mailing list in July, if you are interested.