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From: Maxime Bizon <mbizon@freebox.fr>
To: Thierry Reding <thierry.reding@gmail.com>
Cc: "devicetree@vger.kernel.org" <devicetree@vger.kernel.org>,
	"ksummit-2013-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org"
	<ksummit-2013-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org>,
	Stephen Warren <swarren@wwwdotorg.org>,
	Nicolas Pitre <nico@fluxnic.net>, Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>,
	"linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org"
	<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [Ksummit-2013-discuss] ARM topic: Is DT on ARM the solution, or is there something better?
Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2013 16:57:20 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1382367440.18145.28.camel@sakura.staff.proxad.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20131021091555.GB21518@ulmo.nvidia.com>


On Mon, 2013-10-21 at 11:15 +0200, Thierry Reding wrote:

> A stable ABI means there's about zero chance of redesigning something
> after it's been merged. Unless we want to live with having to support
> several DT bindings in a driver.
> 
That will happen for sure, and it will suffer from lack of testing of
"old" bindings, like every uncommon combinations supported by the kernel
today (think 32b userspace over 64b kernel).

Solution: always use latest DT shipped with kernel. 

> impossible to take into account every possible detail up front simply
> because we're all only human and because some things just might change
> over time. I'm fairly sure that Linux wouldn't be where it is today if
> we didn't have that flexibility.

Also, as you said in another mail, new roadblocks have appeared to reach
mainline, you now have to convince DT maintainers that your DT bindings
are correct / future proof.

IMO this will cause even more un-mainlined SOCs/boards, with the added
difficulty to integrate the existing proprietary bindings if someone
wants to mainline later.


-- 
Maxime

  reply	other threads:[~2013-10-21 14:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 171+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-10-20 21:26 ARM topic: Is DT on ARM the solution, or is there something better? Stephen Warren
2013-10-20 23:11 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
     [not found]   ` <20131020231134.GR25034-l+eeeJia6m9vn6HldHNs0ANdhmdF6hFW@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-20 23:44     ` [Ksummit-2013-discuss] " Guenter Roeck
     [not found]       ` <52646AF9.3050309-0h96xk9xTtrk1uMJSBkQmQ@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-20 23:51         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
     [not found]           ` <20131020235104.GT25034-l+eeeJia6m9vn6HldHNs0ANdhmdF6hFW@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-21  0:13             ` Guenter Roeck
2013-10-21 20:05         ` Stephen Warren
     [not found]           ` <52658918.1060708-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-22  9:45             ` Thierry Reding
2013-10-21  8:32     ` Sascha Hauer
     [not found]       ` <20131021083242.GB30088-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-21  8:48         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
     [not found]           ` <20131021084854.GV25034-l+eeeJia6m9vn6HldHNs0ANdhmdF6hFW@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-21  9:27             ` Sascha Hauer
     [not found]               ` < CAF6AEGtt_2sStiZCNBp9btxevWghSwLZZBdN6ir8eUpX1FXrCQ@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]                 ` < 20131024072811.GS30088@pengutronix.de>
     [not found]                   ` < CAF6AEGuEho9Ms7ifTE-EmBoQ-=_AXgvGcJxi5qEC0vsZ+H9C+A@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]               ` <20131021092730.GF30088-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-21  9:57                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
     [not found]                   ` <20131021095757.GY25034-l+eeeJia6m9vn6HldHNs0ANdhmdF6hFW@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-21 10:24                     ` Thierry Reding
     [not found]                       ` <20131021102448.GD21518-AwZRO8vwLAwmlAP/+Wk3EA@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-21 10:30                         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
     [not found]                           ` <20131021103014.GZ25034-l+eeeJia6m9vn6HldHNs0ANdhmdF6hFW@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-21 10:41                             ` Thierry Reding
2013-10-22  9:19                         ` [Ksummit-2013-discuss] " Mark Brown
2013-10-21 20:09                     ` Stephen Warren
2013-10-21 23:18                     ` Sascha Hauer
2013-10-24  1:14                 ` Rob Clark
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2013-10-24  7:28                     ` Sascha Hauer
     [not found]                       ` <20131024072811.GS30088-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-24  9:00                         ` Thierry Reding
     [not found]                           ` <20131024090054.GA11296-AwZRO8vwLAwmlAP/+Wk3EA@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-24  9:21                             ` Sascha Hauer
2013-10-24 21:21                         ` Rob Clark
     [not found]                           ` <CAF6AEGuEho9Ms7ifTE-EmBoQ-=_AXgvGcJxi5qEC0vsZ+H9C+A-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-25  9:24                             ` Thierry Reding
2013-11-18 12:45                           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
     [not found]                             ` <20131118124518.GA16735-l+eeeJia6m9vn6HldHNs0ANdhmdF6hFW@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-18 15:37                               ` Thierry Reding
     [not found]                                 ` <20131118153750.GM26046-AwZRO8vwLAwmlAP/+Wk3EA@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-18 16:11                                   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
     [not found]                                     ` <20131118161151.GG16735-l+eeeJia6m9vn6HldHNs0ANdhmdF6hFW@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-18 16:18                                       ` Thierry Reding
2013-11-18 18:43                                       ` Mark Brown
2013-11-19 13:54                               ` Grant Likely
2013-10-21 10:04             ` Thierry Reding
2013-10-21 10:57             ` [Ksummit-2013-discuss] " Laurent Pinchart
2013-10-21 10:00     ` Laurent Pinchart
2013-10-21 11:18     ` Sebastian Hesselbarth
     [not found] ` <52644A9E.3060007-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-20 22:08   ` Mark Brown
     [not found]     ` <20131020220839.GT2443-GFdadSzt00ze9xe1eoZjHA@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-20 22:21       ` Stephen Warren
     [not found]         ` <5264576F.6050307-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-21  1:00           ` Nicolas Pitre
     [not found]             ` <alpine.LFD.2.03.1310201911190.1951-hIgblCxmbi8OMTOF05IoTw@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-21  9:15               ` Thierry Reding
2013-10-21 14:57                 ` Maxime Bizon [this message]
     [not found]                 ` <20131021091555.GB21518-AwZRO8vwLAwmlAP/+Wk3EA@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-21 17:07                   ` Richard Cochran
2013-10-21 20:24                     ` Stephen Warren
2013-10-22  9:24                     ` Thierry Reding
     [not found]                       ` <20131022092410.GB15640-AwZRO8vwLAwmlAP/+Wk3EA@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-23 17:30                         ` Richard Cochran
2013-10-23 19:06                           ` Thierry Reding
2013-10-22 17:22                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-10-21 20:29               ` Stephen Warren
     [not found]                 ` <52658EBC.8020800-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-21 20:40                   ` Nicolas Pitre
     [not found]                     ` <alpine.LFD.2.03.1310211632460.1951-hIgblCxmbi8OMTOF05IoTw@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-22  9:39                       ` Thierry Reding
     [not found]                         ` <20131022093923.GC15640-AwZRO8vwLAwmlAP/+Wk3EA@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-22 15:04                           ` Matt Porter
2013-10-22 17:13                             ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                               ` <20131022171346.GE4061-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-22 17:49                                 ` Guenter Roeck
2013-10-23  8:06                                 ` Richard Cochran
2013-10-23  9:49                                   ` Thierry Reding
     [not found]                                     ` <20131023094903.GD11954-AwZRO8vwLAwmlAP/+Wk3EA@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-23 17:16                                       ` Richard Cochran
2013-10-23 17:25                                         ` Matt Porter
2013-10-23 18:05                                           ` Richard Cochran
2013-10-23 18:57                                             ` Nicolas Pitre
2013-10-23 20:12                                             ` Matt Porter
2013-10-23 17:55                                         ` Nicolas Pitre
     [not found]                                           ` <alpine.LFD.2.03.1310231355160.1951-hIgblCxmbi8OMTOF05IoTw@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-23 18:13                                             ` Richard Cochran
2013-10-23 20:35                                               ` Thierry Reding
2013-10-23 17:29                                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                                     ` <20131023172955.GA17145-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-23 17:45                                       ` Richard Cochran
2013-10-23 18:46                                         ` Maxime Bizon
     [not found]                                           ` <1382553982.31058.10.camel-MdnFuL0m/hCw+z8RR+d9WEZ2mhrpEnA6@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-23 18:51                                             ` Richard Cochran
2013-10-23 19:12                                               ` Maxime Bizon
2013-10-24  9:52                                             ` Grant Likely
     [not found]                                               ` <20131024095232.27BBCC4039D-WNowdnHR2B42iJbIjFUEsiwD8/FfD2ys@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-24 11:33                                                 ` Maxime Bizon
     [not found]                                                   ` <1382614439.6040.16.camel-MdnFuL0m/hCw+z8RR+d9WEZ2mhrpEnA6@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-24 11:47                                                     ` David Woodhouse
     [not found]                                                       ` <1382615278.8522.72.camel-Fexsq3y4057IgHVZqg5X0TlWvGAXklZc@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-24 12:13                                                         ` Maxime Bizon
2013-10-24 12:22                                                           ` David Woodhouse
2013-10-24 12:22                                                           ` David Woodhouse
     [not found]                                                             ` <3726fd81259f84ef308ba9011ae35174.squirrel-fWAbwA/6YHlc2C7mugBRk2EX/6BAtgUQ@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-24 13:05                                                               ` Maxime Bizon
     [not found]                                                                 ` <1382619952.6040.57.camel-MdnFuL0m/hCw+z8RR+d9WEZ2mhrpEnA6@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-24 13:14                                                                   ` David Woodhouse
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2013-10-24 13:46                                                                       ` Maxime Bizon
     [not found]                                                                         ` <1382622360.6040.79.camel-MdnFuL0m/hCw+z8RR+d9WEZ2mhrpEnA6@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-24 19:52                                                                           ` Matt Porter
2013-10-24 20:11                                                                       ` Matt Sealey
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2013-10-25  9:00                                                             ` Stephen Warren
2013-10-24 12:23                                                         ` Thierry Reding
     [not found]                                                           ` <20131024122346.GD11296-AwZRO8vwLAwmlAP/+Wk3EA@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-24 12:29                                                             ` David Woodhouse
2013-10-24 13:00                                                             ` Maxime Bizon
     [not found]                                                               ` <1382619655.6040.52.camel-MdnFuL0m/hCw+z8RR+d9WEZ2mhrpEnA6@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-24 13:10                                                                 ` David Woodhouse
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2013-10-24 13:30                                                                     ` Maxime Bizon
     [not found]                                                                       ` <1382621431.6040.66.camel-MdnFuL0m/hCw+z8RR+d9WEZ2mhrpEnA6@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-24 14:05                                                                         ` David Woodhouse
     [not found]                                                                           ` <af289ef3cc80be8de26274ba1f598d54.squirrel-fWAbwA/6YHlc2C7mugBRk2EX/6BAtgUQ@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-24 14:19                                                                             ` Thierry Reding
     [not found]                                                                               ` <20131024141955.GB25061-AwZRO8vwLAwmlAP/+Wk3EA@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-24 14:30                                                                                 ` David Woodhouse
     [not found]                                                                                   ` <465e75de15f7d79c3b57a3b88024e739.squirrel-fWAbwA/6YHlc2C7mugBRk2EX/6BAtgUQ@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-24 14:38                                                                                     ` Thierry Reding
2013-10-24 16:39                                                                                     ` Nicolas Pitre
     [not found]                                                                                       ` <alpine.LFD.2.03.1310241143240.1951-hIgblCxmbi8OMTOF05IoTw@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-24 16:45                                                                                         ` David Woodhouse
     [not found]                                                                                           ` <93d9a5ce228d03c4a183b06b00bd0442.squirrel-fWAbwA/6YHlc2C7mugBRk2EX/6BAtgUQ@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-24 17:08                                                                                             ` Nicolas Pitre
2013-10-24 18:15                                                                                             ` jonsmirl-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w
2013-10-24 14:32                                                                                 ` Richard Cochran
2013-10-24 14:47                                                                                   ` Thierry Reding
2013-10-24 15:37                                                                                   ` Nicolas Pitre
2013-10-24 14:33                                                                                 ` Maxime Bizon
     [not found]                                                                                   ` <1382625219.6040.96.camel-MdnFuL0m/hCw+z8RR+d9WEZ2mhrpEnA6@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-24 14:57                                                                                     ` Thierry Reding
2013-10-24 16:27                                                                             ` Nicolas Pitre
2013-10-24 14:12                                                                     ` Thierry Reding
2013-10-24 14:22                                                                       ` David Woodhouse
     [not found]                                                                         ` <99db70b50b3ddcf20d940d5855c657e0.squirrel-fWAbwA/6YHlc2C7mugBRk2EX/6BAtgUQ@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-24 14:23                                                                           ` Thierry Reding
     [not found]                                                                             ` <20131024142347.GD25061-AwZRO8vwLAwmlAP/+Wk3EA@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-24 14:38                                                                               ` David Woodhouse
     [not found]                                                                                 ` <818aaae744e58e37c6641d41912d0ba2.squirrel-fWAbwA/6YHlc2C7mugBRk2EX/6BAtgUQ@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-24 14:58                                                                                   ` Thierry Reding
2013-10-24 19:58                                                                           ` Matt Porter
     [not found]                                                                       ` <20131024141241.GA25061-AwZRO8vwLAwmlAP/+Wk3EA@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-24 23:54                                                                         ` Grant Likely
2013-10-25  8:52                                                     ` Stephen Warren
     [not found]                                                       ` <526A3165.4020601-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-25  9:16                                                         ` Thierry Reding
2013-10-23 17:47                                       ` Richard Cochran
2013-10-23 17:58                                         ` Nicolas Pitre
2013-10-23 18:02                                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                                           ` <20131023180240.GA32563-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-23 18:23                                             ` Richard Cochran
2013-10-24  8:34                                               ` Thierry Reding
     [not found]                                                 ` <20131024083411.GH9403-AwZRO8vwLAwmlAP/+Wk3EA@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-24 15:00                                                   ` Richard Cochran
2013-10-24 19:46                                                     ` Matt Porter
2013-10-23 18:01                                       ` Guenter Roeck
     [not found]                                         ` <20131023180108.GA23728-0h96xk9xTtrk1uMJSBkQmQ@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-23 18:25                                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                                             ` <20131023182502.GC32563-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-23 18:30                                               ` Richard Cochran
2013-10-23 18:54                                                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                                                   ` <20131023185435.GD32563-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-24  8:06                                                     ` Sascha Hauer
     [not found]                                                       ` <20131024080624.GV30088-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-24  8:17                                                         ` Thierry Reding
     [not found]                                                           ` <20131024081733.GG9403-AwZRO8vwLAwmlAP/+Wk3EA@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-24  8:52                                                             ` Sascha Hauer
2013-10-23 23:29                                                 ` Ben Hutchings
     [not found]                                                   ` <1382570963.6315.48.camel-nDn/Rdv9kqW9Jme8/bJn5UCKIB8iOfG2tUK59QYPAWc@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-24  7:32                                                     ` Richard Cochran
2013-10-24  9:35                                                       ` Ben Hutchings
2013-10-24 12:02                                               ` Andre Heider
2013-10-24  8:01                                       ` Sascha Hauer
     [not found]                                         ` <20131024080126.GU30088-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-24  8:11                                           ` Thierry Reding
2013-10-22 17:42                             ` Nicolas Pitre
     [not found]                               ` <alpine.LFD.2.03.1310221333300.1951-hIgblCxmbi8OMTOF05IoTw@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-22 18:21                                 ` Peter Maydell
     [not found]                                   ` <CAFEAcA8QQyDyvssamsb8s8ydfHGT8V0FQE-wGYt_kRbRMv9GSQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-22 18:36                                     ` Nicolas Pitre
2013-10-22 19:16                                     ` Guenter Roeck
2013-10-22 20:12                                 ` Thierry Reding
2013-10-22 20:41                                   ` Nicolas Pitre
     [not found]                                     ` <alpine.LFD.2.03.1310221624390.1951-hIgblCxmbi8OMTOF05IoTw@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-22 21:39                                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-10-23  8:50                                       ` Thierry Reding
2013-10-23  9:02                                       ` Thierry Reding
2013-10-22 20:42                                   ` Matt Porter
2013-10-23 10:04                                     ` Thierry Reding
     [not found]                                       ` <20131023100456.GE11954-AwZRO8vwLAwmlAP/+Wk3EA@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-23 11:48                                         ` Peter Maydell
2013-10-23 16:29                                         ` Matt Porter
2013-10-22  6:47               ` David Brown
2013-10-21  8:54   ` Thierry Reding
     [not found]     ` <20131021085420.GA21518-AwZRO8vwLAwmlAP/+Wk3EA@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-21 20:19       ` Stephen Warren
     [not found]         ` <52658C49.80400-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-21 22:51           ` [Ksummit-2013-discuss] " Guenter Roeck
     [not found]             ` <5265AFED.1040503-0h96xk9xTtrk1uMJSBkQmQ@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-22 10:27               ` James Hogan
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2013-10-22 16:31                   ` Jonathan Cameron
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2013-10-22 16:49                       ` Guenter Roeck
     [not found]                         ` <20131022164922.GA29852-0h96xk9xTtrk1uMJSBkQmQ@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-22 20:35                           ` Thierry Reding
2013-10-22 21:10                             ` Guenter Roeck
     [not found]                               ` <20131022211000.GA30394-0h96xk9xTtrk1uMJSBkQmQ@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-23  7:57                                 ` Thierry Reding
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2013-10-23 16:01                                     ` Guenter Roeck
     [not found]                                       ` <20131023160131.GA20675-0h96xk9xTtrk1uMJSBkQmQ@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-23 21:07                                         ` Thierry Reding
2013-10-24 15:18                                           ` Guenter Roeck
     [not found]                                             ` <20131024151853.GB25355-0h96xk9xTtrk1uMJSBkQmQ@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-01 10:36                                               ` Thierry Reding
     [not found]                                                 ` <20131101103614.GM27864-AwZRO8vwLAwmlAP/+Wk3EA@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-01 13:30                                                   ` Guenter Roeck
2013-10-22 20:48                   ` Thierry Reding
2013-10-22 10:25           ` Thierry Reding
2013-10-22 21:44   ` Matt Sealey
     [not found]     ` <CAHCPf3uKp-aEavjrEbHGBc_Ga-JgJoEDF+io4kOuvtL6H05eRA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-23 11:41       ` Peter Maydell
     [not found]         ` <CAFEAcA8rPn7x8W4T3qE5OUeSVQd-GB9+EQPnxMsmyNQ0HKoMPw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-23 23:02           ` [Ksummit-2013-discuss] " Rob Herring
2013-11-18 12:26   ` Thierry Reding
     [not found] ` <20131118122644.GA26046@ulmo. nvidia.com>
     [not found]   ` <20131118122644.GA26046-AwZRO8vwLAwmlAP/+Wk3EA@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-18 13:40     ` Grant Likely
     [not found]       ` <20131118134022.26EE7C409EC-WNowdnHR2B42iJbIjFUEsiwD8/FfD2ys@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-18 13:57         ` Mark Brown
     [not found]           ` <20131118135727.GD14306-GFdadSzt00ze9xe1eoZjHA@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-18 15:29             ` Thierry Reding
     [not found]               ` <20131118152920.GL26046-AwZRO8vwLAwmlAP/+Wk3EA@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-18 15:50                 ` Mark Brown
     [not found]                   ` <20131118155022.GB28334-GFdadSzt00ze9xe1eoZjHA@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-18 16:06                     ` Thierry Reding
     [not found]                       ` <20131118160626.GN26046-AwZRO8vwLAwmlAP/+Wk3EA@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-18 17:16                         ` Stephen Warren
     [not found]                           ` <528A4B5D.8050809-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-19  9:35                             ` Thierry Reding
     [not found]                               ` <20131119093504.GF31504-AwZRO8vwLAwmlAP/+Wk3EA@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-19 17:27                                 ` Stephen Warren
     [not found]                                   ` <528B9F8C.5080202-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-20 13:29                                     ` Thierry Reding
2013-11-18 18:35                         ` Mark Brown
     [not found]                           ` <20131118183502.GP2674-GFdadSzt00ze9xe1eoZjHA@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-19  9:11                             ` Thierry Reding
     [not found]                               ` <20131119091140.GE31504-AwZRO8vwLAwmlAP/+Wk3EA@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-19 10:16                                 ` Mark Brown

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