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From: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
To: NeilBrown <neilb@suse.de>
Cc: Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Grant Likely <grant.likely@linaro.org>,
	Rob Herring <rob.herring@calxeda.com>,
	devicetree@vger.kernel.org, lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Strange location and name for platform  devices when device-tree is used.
Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2013 15:27:34 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1383280054.28909.30.camel@pasglop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1383279744.28909.26.camel@pasglop>

On Fri, 2013-11-01 at 15:22 +1100, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote:
> On Fri, 2013-11-01 at 14:59 +1100, NeilBrown wrote:
> > and I wonder how relevant it still is in this context.  As platform devices
> > are all in the root of the device-tree and hence are siblings, they must have
> > unique names in the device-tree and  so the platform devices created from
> > them will also have unique names -- won't they?
> 
> I agree about /sys/devices -> /sys/devices/platform, that makes more
> sense
> 
> The problem with names is that we don't *know* that your devices are
> at the root and unique. They don't have to be. I have platforms that
> have several "chips" each containing all the same devices. They need to
> be de-duped.
> 
> Maybe the right approach is to build the de-duplication in sysfs
> itself ?

BTW. How come you have devices at the root of the tree without "reg" ?
It's fairly fishy ... 

The root of the tree is supposed to represent the processor address
space, and has #address-cells/#size-cells set appropriately. Any MMIO
mapped device shall thus have a "reg" property and a unit address.

Only "container" nodes (such as /cpus or /chosen) or virtual devices
(such as a node used to representing the collection of bits & pieces
that makes the audio infrastructure) and are thus not per-se MMIO mapped
entities can ommit the "reg" properties.

In the case of pwm, it looks like there's another device providing a pwm
capability, in which case your backlight would indeed be a "virtual
device" (basically non-mmio device not hanging off any bus). Or it could
have been represented as a child of pwm if that had been defined that
way, I am not familiar with the pwm bindings.

Cheers,
Ben.

> Cheers,
> Ben.
> 
> > Any help understanding and/or fixing this discrepancy greatly appreciated.
> > 
> > The change of name is particularly annoying to me because one of my platform
> > devices is a pwm_bl.c backlight.  With a boardfile I
> > get /sys/class/pwm_backlight.  With devicetree the best I can get
> > is /sys/class/pwm_backlight.23 (or similar).  It would be really nice to have
> > a more stable and sensible name here.
> 

  reply	other threads:[~2013-11-01  4:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-11-01  3:59 Strange location and name for platform devices when device-tree is used NeilBrown
2013-11-01  4:22 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-11-01  4:27   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt [this message]
2013-11-01  5:03     ` NeilBrown
2013-11-01  5:08       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-11-01 18:04         ` Grant Likely
2013-11-01 20:33           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-11-15  7:37             ` Grant Likely
     [not found]           ` <20131101180459.81793C40A28-WNowdnHR2B42iJbIjFUEsiwD8/FfD2ys@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-01 20:48             ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2013-11-01 20:47         ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
     [not found]           ` <20131101204749.GA19662-U8xfFu+wG4EAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-01 23:09             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-11-02 15:58               ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
     [not found]                 ` <20131102155824.GG23938-U8xfFu+wG4EAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-02 20:22                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-11-02 20:40                     ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
     [not found]                       ` <20131102204021.GA13994-U8xfFu+wG4EAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-03 21:12                         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-11-03 21:09                 ` NeilBrown
2013-11-01 23:10             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-11-01 23:45               ` NeilBrown
     [not found]                 ` <20131102104505.34105cbb-wvvUuzkyo1EYVZTmpyfIwg@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-04  8:56                   ` Thierry Reding
2013-11-15  7:44                 ` Grant Likely

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