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From: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
To: NeilBrown <neilb@suse.de>
Cc: Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Grant Likely <grant.likely@linaro.org>,
	Rob Herring <rob.herring@calxeda.com>,
	devicetree@vger.kernel.org, lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Strange location and name for platform  devices when device-tree is used.
Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2013 16:08:36 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1383282516.28909.36.camel@pasglop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20131101160329.37f3707b@notabene.brown>

On Fri, 2013-11-01 at 16:03 +1100, NeilBrown wrote:

> Do you mean we could allow multiple devices on the one bus to have the same
> name, but get sysfs to notice and de-duplicate by mangling one name?  I don't
> think I like that but I might have misunderstood.

What other option do we have ?

> On my device I seem to have some platform devices registered through
> device-tree, and some registered through platform_device_add (e.g.
> 'alarmtimer').  Guaranteeing they remain disjoint sets if the kernel is
> allowed to evolve independently of the devicetree might be tricky....
> Maybe we need "/sys/devices/platform" and "/sys/devices/dt_platform" ??

No, I think device-tree created platform devices should go
to /sys/devices/platform like the "classic" ones.

The problem is really how to deal with potential name duplication. We
could try to register, if we get -EEXIST (assuming sysfs returns the
right stuff), try again with ".1" etc...

> Hoping someone who understands the device model better than me will help.

Greg ? :-)

 .../...

> The  'backlight' device is a virtual device.  It uses a 'pwm' device to
> provide the variable brightness to the back light.
> 
> The 'pwm' device itself is virtual, making use of a 'dmtimer' to provide the
> timing...  The timer device (timer11 in omap3.dtsi) has a 'reg' property.
> 
> A random example from current mainline is 
>   arch/arm/boot/dts/am335x-evmsk.dts
> which has 'backlight' as a virtual device compatible with pwm-backlight.
> It also has  'gpio-keys', 'gpio-leds', and 'regulator-fixed' compatible
> virtual devices.  They seem fairly common.

Ok.

Cheers,
Ben.

> Thanks,
> NeilBrown
> 
> 
> > 
> > Cheers,
> > Ben.
> > 
> > > Cheers,
> > > Ben.
> > > 
> > > > Any help understanding and/or fixing this discrepancy greatly appreciated.
> > > > 
> > > > The change of name is particularly annoying to me because one of my platform
> > > > devices is a pwm_bl.c backlight.  With a boardfile I
> > > > get /sys/class/pwm_backlight.  With devicetree the best I can get
> > > > is /sys/class/pwm_backlight.23 (or similar).  It would be really nice to have
> > > > a more stable and sensible name here.
> > > 
> > 
> 

  reply	other threads:[~2013-11-01  5:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-11-01  3:59 Strange location and name for platform devices when device-tree is used NeilBrown
2013-11-01  4:22 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-11-01  4:27   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-11-01  5:03     ` NeilBrown
2013-11-01  5:08       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt [this message]
2013-11-01 18:04         ` Grant Likely
2013-11-01 20:33           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-11-15  7:37             ` Grant Likely
     [not found]           ` <20131101180459.81793C40A28-WNowdnHR2B42iJbIjFUEsiwD8/FfD2ys@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-01 20:48             ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2013-11-01 20:47         ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
     [not found]           ` <20131101204749.GA19662-U8xfFu+wG4EAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-01 23:09             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-11-02 15:58               ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
     [not found]                 ` <20131102155824.GG23938-U8xfFu+wG4EAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-02 20:22                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-11-02 20:40                     ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
     [not found]                       ` <20131102204021.GA13994-U8xfFu+wG4EAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-03 21:12                         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-11-03 21:09                 ` NeilBrown
2013-11-01 23:10             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-11-01 23:45               ` NeilBrown
     [not found]                 ` <20131102104505.34105cbb-wvvUuzkyo1EYVZTmpyfIwg@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-04  8:56                   ` Thierry Reding
2013-11-15  7:44                 ` Grant Likely

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