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From: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com>
To: dgilbert@interlog.com
Cc: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>, Loc Ho <lho@apm.com>,
	olof@lixom.net, tj@kernel.org, linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-ide@vger.kernel.org, devicetree@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, jcm@redhat.com,
	patches@apm.com, Tuan Phan <tphan@apm.com>,
	Suman Tripathi <stripathi@apm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 2/4] Documentation: Add APM X-Gene SoC 15Gbps Multi-purpose PHY driver binding documentation
Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2013 08:55:53 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1386867353.5985.7.camel@dabdike> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <52A9C8C5.8030809@interlog.com>

On Thu, 2013-12-12 at 15:31 +0100, Douglas Gilbert wrote:
> On 13-12-12 02:27 PM, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> > On Thursday 12 December 2013, Loc Ho wrote:
> >> +- reg                  : First PHY memory resource is the SDS PHY access
> >> +                         resource.
> >> +                         Second PHY memory resoruce is the clock and reset
> >> +                         resources.
> >> +                         Third PHY memory resource is the SDS PHY access
> >> +                         resource outside of the IP if it is type
> >> +                         "apm,xgene-phy-ext".
> >
> > Why do the "clock and reset" resources not use a clock driver and a reset
> > driver?
> >
> > I would expect these to get replaced with
> >
> > 	clocks		: Reference to external clock input
> > 	resets		: Reference to reset controller input
> >
> >> +Optional properties:
> >> +- status		: Shall be "ok" if enabled or "disabled" if disabled.
> >> +			  Default is "ok".
> >> +- apm,tx-eye-tuning	: Manual control to fine tune the capture of the serial
> >> +			  bit lines from the automatic calibrated position.
> >> +			  Two set of 3-tuple setting for Gen1, Gen2, and Gen3.
> >> +			  Range from 0 to 0x7f in unit of one bit period.
> >> +			  Default is 0xa.
> >
> > What does gen1, gen2 and gen3 refer to? Is this PCIe, SATA or serdes generations
> > or all of them?
> >
> > Why are there two sets?
> >
> > Will this have to change if you add PCIe support?
> >
> > I would suggest using decimal notation here instead of hexadecimal since you
> > are dealing with numbers couting things. Same for the others.
> >
> >> +- apm,tx-eye-direction	: Eye tuning manual control direction. 0 means sample
> >> +			  data earlier than the nominal sampling point. 1 means
> >> +			  sample data later than the nominal sampling point.
> >> +			  Two set of 3-tuple setting for Gen1, Gen2, and Gen3.
> >> +			  Default is 0x0.
> >> +
> >> +- apm,tx-boost-gain	: Frequency boost AC (LSB 3-bit) and DC (2-bit)
> >> +			  gain control. Two set of 3-tuple setting for Gen1,
> >> +			  Gen2, and Gen3. Range is between 0 to 0x1f in unit
> >> +			  of dB. Default is 0x3.
> >> +
> >> +- apm,tx-amplitude	: Amplitude control. Two set of 3-tuple setting for
> >> +			  Gen1, Gen2, and Gen3. Range is between 0 to 0xf in
> >> +			  unit of 13.3mV. Default is 0xf.
> >
> > Units of 13.3mV don't seem to be useful as a generic measurement. I'd
> > recommend using milivolts or microvolts.
> >
> >> +- apm,tx-pre-cursor1	: 1st pre-cursor emphasis taps control. Two set of
> >> +			  3-tuple setting for Gen1, Gen2, and Gen3. Range is
> >> +			  between 0 to 0xf in unit of 18.2mV. Default is 0x0.
> >> +- apm,tx-pre-cursor2	: 2st pre-cursor emphasis taps control. Two set of
> >> +			  3-tuple setting for Gen1, Gen2, and Gen3. Range is
> >> +			  between 0 to 0x7 in unit of 18.2mV. Default is 0x0.
> >> +- apm,tx-post-cursor	: Post-cursor emphasis taps control. Two set of
> >> +			  3-tuple setting for Gen1, Gen2, and Gen3. Range is
> >> +			  between 0 to 0x1f in unit of 18.2mV. Default is 0xf.
> >
> > Same here.
> >
> >> +- apm,tx-speed		: Tx operating speed. One set of 3-tuple for
> >> +			  Gen1 (0x1), Gen2 (0x3), and Gen3 (0x7). Default is
> >> +			  0x7.
> >
> > I'm completely confused by this description. Can you rephrase this?
> > It sounds like the only possible values are <1 3 7> for this property.
> 
> Most likely Gen1, Gen2 and Gen3 are SATA-speak corresponding to SAS's
> G1, G2 and G3:
> 
> G1   Gen1     1.5 Gbps
> G2   Gen2     3 Gbps
> G3   Gen3     6 Gbps
> G4   -        12 Gbps
> G5   -        24 Gbps

Electrically, SAS phys and SATA phys are identical.  We already have a
SAS phy abstraction in libsas ... when looking at a separable phy
implementation, shouldn't we be doing something that works for both
instead of just SATA?

James



  reply	other threads:[~2013-12-12 16:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-12-12  7:30 (unknown), Loc Ho
2013-12-12  7:30 ` [PATCH v4 1/4] PHY: Add function set_speed to generic PHY framework Loc Ho
2013-12-12  7:30   ` [PATCH v4 2/4] Documentation: Add APM X-Gene SoC 15Gbps Multi-purpose PHY driver binding documentation Loc Ho
2013-12-12  7:30     ` [PATCH v4 3/4] PHY: add APM X-Gene SoC 15Gbps Multi-purpose PHY driver Loc Ho
2013-12-12  7:30       ` [PATCH v4 4/4] arm64: Add APM X-Gene SoC 15Gbps Multi-purpose PHY DTS entries Loc Ho
2013-12-12 13:27     ` [PATCH v4 2/4] Documentation: Add APM X-Gene SoC 15Gbps Multi-purpose PHY driver binding documentation Arnd Bergmann
2013-12-12 14:31       ` Douglas Gilbert
2013-12-12 16:55         ` James Bottomley [this message]
2013-12-12 21:09           ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-12-12 20:29         ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-12-12 23:30           ` Loc Ho
2013-12-12 16:43       ` Loc Ho
2013-12-12 21:25         ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-12-12 23:46           ` Loc Ho

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