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From: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
To: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
Cc: Liviu Dudau <Liviu.Dudau@arm.com>,
	Bjorn Helgaas <bhelgaas@google.com>,
	linux-pci <linux-pci@vger.kernel.org>,
	Catalin Marinas <Catalin.Marinas@arm.com>,
	Will Deacon <Will.Deacon@arm.com>,
	linaro-kernel <linaro-kernel@lists.linaro.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"devicetree@vger.kernel.org" <devicetree@vger.kernel.org>,
	LAKML <linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	Tanmay Inamdar <tinamdar@apm.com>,
	Grant Likely <grant.likely@secretlab.ca>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 4/6] pci: Introduce a domain number for pci_host_bridge.
Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2014 15:01:09 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1397192469.19518.11.camel@pasglop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6459805.ygy4tBNDNz@wuerfel>

On Thu, 2014-04-10 at 22:46 +0200, Arnd Bergmann wrote:

> Half of it ;-)
> 
> I think it would be better to not have an architecture specific data
> structure, just like it would be better not to have architecture specific
> pcibios_* functions that get called by the PCI core. Note that the
> architecture specific functions are the ones that rely on the architecture
> specific data structures as well. If they only use the common fields,
> it should also be possible to share the code.

I don't understand... we'll never get rid of architecture specific hooks
in one form or another.

We'll always need to some things in an architecture or host-bridge
specific way. Now if you don't want to call them arch hooks, then call
them host bridge ops, but they are needed and thus they will need some
kind of architecture specific extension to the base host bridge 
structure.

EEH is one big nasty example on powerpc.

Another random one that happens to be hot in my brain right now because
we just finished debugging it: On powernv, we are just fixing a series
of bugs caused by the generic code trying to do hot resets on PCIe "by
hand" by directly toggling the secondary reset register in bridges.

Well, on our root complexes, this triggers a link loss which triggers
a fatal EEH "ER_all" interrupt which we escalate into a fence and all
hell breaks loose.

We need to mask some error traps in the hardware before doing something
that can cause an intentional link loss... and unmask them when done.
(Among other things, there are other issues on P7 with hot reset).

So hot reset must be an architecture hook.

PERST (fundamental reset) can *only* be a hook. The way to generate a
PERST is not specified. In fact, on our machines, we have special GPIOs
we can use to generate PERST on individual slots below a PLX bridge
and a different methods for slots directly on a PHB.

Eventually most of those hooks land into firmware, and as such it's akin
to ACPI which also keeps a separate state structure and a pile of hooks.

> I also don't realistically think we can get there on a lot of architectures
> any time soon. Note that most architectures only have one PCI host
> implementation, so the architecture structure is the same as the host
> driver structure anyway.
> 
> For architectures like powerpc and arm that have people actively working
> on them, we have a chance to clean up that code in the way we want it
> (if we can agree on the direction), but it's still not trivial to do.
> 
> Speaking of arm32 in particular, I think we will end up with a split
> approach: modern platforms (multiplatform, possibly all DT based) using
> PCI core infrastructure directly and no architecture specific PCI
> code on the one side, and a variation of today's code for the legacy
> platforms on the other.
> 
> 	Arnd

  reply	other threads:[~2014-04-11  5:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 76+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-03-14 15:34 [PATCH v7 0/6] Support for creating generic host_bridge from device tree Liviu Dudau
2014-03-14 15:34 ` [PATCH v7 1/6] pci: Introduce pci_register_io_range() helper function Liviu Dudau
     [not found]   ` <1394811272-1547-2-git-send-email-Liviu.Dudau-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2014-04-05  0:19     ` Bjorn Helgaas
2014-04-06  9:49       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2014-04-07  8:35         ` Liviu Dudau
2014-04-07  9:13           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2014-04-07 11:16             ` Arnd Bergmann
     [not found]       ` <20140405001953.GE15806-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2014-04-07  8:31         ` Liviu Dudau
2014-04-07 11:36           ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-04-07 13:42             ` Liviu Dudau
2014-04-07 17:58             ` Bjorn Helgaas
2014-04-08  9:50               ` Liviu Dudau
2014-04-08 10:22                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-04-08 16:54                   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2014-06-26  8:59               ` Catalin Marinas
2014-06-26  9:30                 ` Liviu Dudau
     [not found]                   ` <20140626093029.GB12812-2JSQmVVBSi7ZROr8t4l/smS4ubULX0JqMm0uRHvK7Nw@public.gmane.org>
2014-06-26 14:11                     ` Catalin Marinas
2014-06-26 14:14                       ` Will Deacon
2014-06-27  0:44                 ` Rob Herring
2014-06-27 11:03                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-06-27 12:49                     ` Will Deacon
2014-06-27 13:16                       ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-06-27 13:38                         ` Catalin Marinas
2014-06-27 16:15                       ` Rob Herring
2014-06-30 10:17                         ` Will Deacon
     [not found]                   ` <CAL_JsqKCHf6VXR3FFcBSu1xuhP54dYsAJCZwT-X9p5iTZAOJfQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-06-27 14:14                     ` Catalin Marinas
2014-06-27 14:55                       ` Bjorn Helgaas
2014-06-27 15:18                         ` Liviu Dudau
2014-04-07 23:21   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2014-04-08  7:12     ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-04-08  9:49     ` Liviu Dudau
2014-04-08 10:11       ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-04-08 16:48         ` Bjorn Helgaas
2014-03-14 15:34 ` [PATCH v7 2/6] pci: OF: Fix the conversion of IO ranges into IO resources Liviu Dudau
2014-03-14 17:05   ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-03-14 17:19     ` Liviu Dudau
2014-03-14 18:46       ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-03-14 19:00         ` Liviu Dudau
     [not found]           ` <20140314190017.GA6457-2JSQmVVBSi7ZROr8t4l/smS4ubULX0JqMm0uRHvK7Nw@public.gmane.org>
2014-03-14 19:16             ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-03-17 13:41               ` Liviu Dudau
2014-03-14 15:34 ` [PATCH v7 3/6] pci: Create pci_host_bridge before its associated bus in pci_create_root_bus Liviu Dudau
2014-03-14 15:34 ` [PATCH v7 4/6] pci: Introduce a domain number for pci_host_bridge Liviu Dudau
2014-04-05  0:00   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2014-04-07  8:46     ` Liviu Dudau
2014-04-07  9:14       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2014-04-07 10:07         ` Liviu Dudau
2014-04-07 22:44           ` Bjorn Helgaas
2014-04-08 10:20             ` Liviu Dudau
     [not found]               ` <20140408102043.GV17163-2JSQmVVBSi7ZROr8t4l/smS4ubULX0JqMm0uRHvK7Nw@public.gmane.org>
2014-04-08 16:28                 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2014-04-09 12:07                   ` Liviu Dudau
2014-04-09 14:02                     ` Bjorn Helgaas
2014-04-09 14:08                       ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-04-09 23:49                       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
     [not found]                       ` <CAErSpo4BmoYzf6GxOPRni=q563zhON57s7=5Hz=2Cf-X2ft-1A-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-04-10  1:27                         ` Liviu Dudau
2014-04-10  3:48                           ` Bjorn Helgaas
2014-04-10  8:00                             ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-04-10 13:50                               ` Bjorn Helgaas
     [not found]                                 ` <CAErSpo6u7kr+QdnhAXBo20izg-DNHR4zHT+kRvq34whp68RJCQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-04-10 14:07                                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-04-10 14:53                                     ` Liviu Dudau
2014-04-10 20:46                                       ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-04-11  5:01                                         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt [this message]
2014-04-11  8:36                                           ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-04-11  9:16                                             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2014-04-11  9:22                                         ` Liviu Dudau
2014-04-11 13:51                                           ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-07-01 16:37             ` Liviu Dudau
2014-07-04 14:57             ` Liviu Dudau
2014-07-08  1:11               ` Bjorn Helgaas
2014-07-08 10:21                 ` Liviu Dudau
2014-03-14 15:34 ` [PATCH v7 5/6] pci: Export find_pci_host_bridge() function Liviu Dudau
2014-04-04 23:39   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2014-04-07 14:20     ` Liviu Dudau
2014-04-07 14:38       ` One Thousand Gnomes
2014-03-14 15:34 ` [PATCH v7 6/6] pci: Add support for creating a generic host_bridge from device tree Liviu Dudau
2014-04-08 12:57   ` Hanjun Guo
2014-04-08 13:09     ` Liviu Dudau

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