* amba uarts - arm type uarts fifo size provided by device tree @ 2015-02-18 18:53 Jorge Ramirez-Ortiz [not found] ` <1424285593-2886-1-git-send-email-jorge.ramirez-ortiz-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org> 0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread From: Jorge Ramirez-Ortiz @ 2015-02-18 18:53 UTC (permalink / raw) To: jorge.ramirez-ortiz-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A, devicetree-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA, linux-lFZ/pmaqli7XmaaqVzeoHQ [PATCH 1/2] Documentation: bindings: add optional fifo size property [PATCH 2/2] drivers/tty: pl011: read fifo size from OF if present These patches aim at resolving an issue present on some of the amba pl011 uarts. Some of these arm type uarts have their fifo sizes not defined in terms of the amba_rev register. Those uarts should be able to declare their fifo sizes using the optional property "fifo-size" in the device tree. This device tree setting shall take precedence over any other values. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe devicetree" in the body of a message to majordomo-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
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* [PATCH 1/2] Documentation: bindings: add optional fifo size property to AMBA UARTs [not found] ` <1424285593-2886-1-git-send-email-jorge.ramirez-ortiz-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org> @ 2015-02-18 18:53 ` Jorge Ramirez-Ortiz 2015-02-18 18:53 ` [PATCH 2/2] drivers/tty: pl011: read fifo size from OF if present Jorge Ramirez-Ortiz 2015-02-18 19:06 ` amba uarts - arm type uarts fifo size provided by device tree Mark Rutland 2 siblings, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread From: Jorge Ramirez-Ortiz @ 2015-02-18 18:53 UTC (permalink / raw) To: jorge.ramirez-ortiz-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A, devicetree-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA, linux-lFZ/pmaqli7XmaaqVzeoHQ Signed-off-by: Jorge Ramirez-Ortiz <jorge.ramirez-ortiz-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org> --- Documentation/devicetree/bindings/serial/pl011.txt | 1 + 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+) diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/serial/pl011.txt b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/serial/pl011.txt index 5d2e840..05d1adb 100644 --- a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/serial/pl011.txt +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/serial/pl011.txt @@ -13,5 +13,6 @@ Optional properties: - dmas: When present, may have one or two dma channels. The first one must be named "rx", the second one must be named "tx". +- fifo-size: When present, must have the fifo size. See also bindings/arm/primecell.txt -- 1.9.1 -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe devicetree" in the body of a message to majordomo-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html ^ permalink raw reply related [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* [PATCH 2/2] drivers/tty: pl011: read fifo size from OF if present [not found] ` <1424285593-2886-1-git-send-email-jorge.ramirez-ortiz-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org> 2015-02-18 18:53 ` [PATCH 1/2] Documentation: bindings: add optional fifo size property to AMBA UARTs Jorge Ramirez-Ortiz @ 2015-02-18 18:53 ` Jorge Ramirez-Ortiz [not found] ` <1424285593-2886-3-git-send-email-jorge.ramirez-ortiz-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org> 2015-02-18 19:06 ` amba uarts - arm type uarts fifo size provided by device tree Mark Rutland 2 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread From: Jorge Ramirez-Ortiz @ 2015-02-18 18:53 UTC (permalink / raw) To: jorge.ramirez-ortiz-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A, devicetree-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA, linux-lFZ/pmaqli7XmaaqVzeoHQ Signed-off-by: Jorge Ramirez-Ortiz <jorge.ramirez-ortiz-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org> --- drivers/tty/serial/amba-pl011.c | 6 ++++++ 1 file changed, 6 insertions(+) diff --git a/drivers/tty/serial/amba-pl011.c b/drivers/tty/serial/amba-pl011.c index 02016fc..23fef63 100644 --- a/drivers/tty/serial/amba-pl011.c +++ b/drivers/tty/serial/amba-pl011.c @@ -84,6 +84,12 @@ struct vendor_data { static unsigned int get_fifosize_arm(struct amba_device *dev) { + const void *prop; + + prop = of_get_property(dev->dev.of_node, "fifo-size", NULL); + if (prop) + return of_read_ulong(prop, 1); + return amba_rev(dev) < 3 ? 16 : 32; } -- 1.9.1 -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe devicetree" in the body of a message to majordomo-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html ^ permalink raw reply related [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
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* Re: [PATCH 2/2] drivers/tty: pl011: read fifo size from OF if present [not found] ` <1424285593-2886-3-git-send-email-jorge.ramirez-ortiz-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org> @ 2015-02-18 19:08 ` Mark Rutland 0 siblings, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread From: Mark Rutland @ 2015-02-18 19:08 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Jorge Ramirez-Ortiz Cc: devicetree-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org, linux-lFZ/pmaqli7XmaaqVzeoHQ@public.gmane.org, linux-arm-kernel-IAPFreCvJWM7uuMidbF8XUB+6BGkLq7r On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 06:53:13PM +0000, Jorge Ramirez-Ortiz wrote: > Signed-off-by: Jorge Ramirez-Ortiz <jorge.ramirez-ortiz-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org> > --- > drivers/tty/serial/amba-pl011.c | 6 ++++++ > 1 file changed, 6 insertions(+) > > diff --git a/drivers/tty/serial/amba-pl011.c b/drivers/tty/serial/amba-pl011.c > index 02016fc..23fef63 100644 > --- a/drivers/tty/serial/amba-pl011.c > +++ b/drivers/tty/serial/amba-pl011.c > @@ -84,6 +84,12 @@ struct vendor_data { > > static unsigned int get_fifosize_arm(struct amba_device *dev) > { > + const void *prop; > + > + prop = of_get_property(dev->dev.of_node, "fifo-size", NULL); > + if (prop) > + return of_read_ulong(prop, 1); Use of_property_read_u32. You will need to sanity check the result, also. What value do you need for your platform? Mark. > + > return amba_rev(dev) < 3 ? 16 : 32; > } > > -- > 1.9.1 > > -- > To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe devicetree" in > the body of a message to majordomo-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org > More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html > -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe devicetree" in the body of a message to majordomo-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: amba uarts - arm type uarts fifo size provided by device tree [not found] ` <1424285593-2886-1-git-send-email-jorge.ramirez-ortiz-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org> 2015-02-18 18:53 ` [PATCH 1/2] Documentation: bindings: add optional fifo size property to AMBA UARTs Jorge Ramirez-Ortiz 2015-02-18 18:53 ` [PATCH 2/2] drivers/tty: pl011: read fifo size from OF if present Jorge Ramirez-Ortiz @ 2015-02-18 19:06 ` Mark Rutland 2015-02-18 19:33 ` Jorge Ramirez-Ortiz 2 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread From: Mark Rutland @ 2015-02-18 19:06 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Jorge Ramirez-Ortiz Cc: devicetree-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org, linux-lFZ/pmaqli7XmaaqVzeoHQ@public.gmane.org, linux-arm-kernel-IAPFreCvJWM7uuMidbF8XUB+6BGkLq7r Hi, Please Cc lakml for patches in this area in future. On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 06:53:11PM +0000, Jorge Ramirez-Ortiz wrote: > [PATCH 1/2] Documentation: bindings: add optional fifo size property > [PATCH 2/2] drivers/tty: pl011: read fifo size from OF if present > > > These patches aim at resolving an issue present on some of the amba pl011 > uarts. Which systems are affected? Neither of your two patches add the property to any dts file. > Some of these arm type uarts have their fifo sizes not defined in terms of the > amba_rev register. What does said register actually contain? Is this a full PL011, or a cut-down SBSA UART? Mark. > Those uarts should be able to declare their fifo sizes using the optional > property "fifo-size" in the device tree. This device tree setting shall take > precedence over any other values. > > > -- > To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe devicetree" in > the body of a message to majordomo-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org > More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html > -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe devicetree" in the body of a message to majordomo-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: amba uarts - arm type uarts fifo size provided by device tree 2015-02-18 19:06 ` amba uarts - arm type uarts fifo size provided by device tree Mark Rutland @ 2015-02-18 19:33 ` Jorge Ramirez-Ortiz 2015-02-19 0:34 ` Russell King - ARM Linux 0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread From: Jorge Ramirez-Ortiz @ 2015-02-18 19:33 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Mark Rutland Cc: devicetree-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org, linux-lFZ/pmaqli7XmaaqVzeoHQ@public.gmane.org, linux-arm-kernel-IAPFreCvJWM7uuMidbF8XUB+6BGkLq7r On 02/18/2015 02:06 PM, Mark Rutland wrote: > Hi, > > Please Cc lakml for patches in this area in future. > > On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 06:53:11PM +0000, Jorge Ramirez-Ortiz wrote: >> [PATCH 1/2] Documentation: bindings: add optional fifo size property >> [PATCH 2/2] drivers/tty: pl011: read fifo size from OF if present >> >> >> These patches aim at resolving an issue present on some of the amba pl011 >> uarts. > Which systems are affected? Neither of your two patches add the property > to any dts file. yes, the system affected is still under revision (I should have mentioned) https://lkml.org/lkml/2015/2/5/144 this is the board I am using to test https://www.96boards.org/products/hikey/ > >> Some of these arm type uarts have their fifo sizes not defined in terms of the >> amba_rev register. > What does said register actually contain? the amba_rev contains '1' for the Hisilicon Hi6220 SoC > > Is this a full PL011, or a cut-down SBSA UART? I believe is full PL011 (ARM type) - that is what is being run in my tests. > > Mark. > >> Those uarts should be able to declare their fifo sizes using the optional >> property "fifo-size" in the device tree. This device tree setting shall take >> precedence over any other values. >> >> >> -- >> To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe devicetree" in >> the body of a message to majordomo-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org >> More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html >> -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe devicetree" in the body of a message to majordomo-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: amba uarts - arm type uarts fifo size provided by device tree 2015-02-18 19:33 ` Jorge Ramirez-Ortiz @ 2015-02-19 0:34 ` Russell King - ARM Linux [not found] ` <20150219003409.GX8656-l+eeeJia6m9vn6HldHNs0ANdhmdF6hFW@public.gmane.org> 0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread From: Russell King - ARM Linux @ 2015-02-19 0:34 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Jorge Ramirez-Ortiz Cc: Mark Rutland, devicetree@vger.kernel.org, linux-arm-kernel On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 02:33:42PM -0500, Jorge Ramirez-Ortiz wrote: > On 02/18/2015 02:06 PM, Mark Rutland wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Please Cc lakml for patches in this area in future. > > > > On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 06:53:11PM +0000, Jorge Ramirez-Ortiz wrote: > >> [PATCH 1/2] Documentation: bindings: add optional fifo size property > >> [PATCH 2/2] drivers/tty: pl011: read fifo size from OF if present > >> > >> > >> These patches aim at resolving an issue present on some of the amba pl011 > >> uarts. > > Which systems are affected? Neither of your two patches add the property > > to any dts file. > > > yes, the system affected is still under revision (I should have mentioned) > https://lkml.org/lkml/2015/2/5/144 Sorry, I can't follow that thread. What FIFO size do your UARTs have? What is the full ID of the UARTs? -- FTTC broadband for 0.8mile line: currently at 10.5Mbps down 400kbps up according to speedtest.net. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
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* Re: amba uarts - arm type uarts fifo size provided by device tree [not found] ` <20150219003409.GX8656-l+eeeJia6m9vn6HldHNs0ANdhmdF6hFW@public.gmane.org> @ 2015-02-19 0:48 ` Jorge Ramirez-Ortiz 0 siblings, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread From: Jorge Ramirez-Ortiz @ 2015-02-19 0:48 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Russell King - ARM Linux Cc: Mark Rutland, devicetree-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org, linux-arm-kernel-IAPFreCvJWM7uuMidbF8XUB+6BGkLq7r On 02/18/2015 07:34 PM, Russell King - ARM Linux wrote: > On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 02:33:42PM -0500, Jorge Ramirez-Ortiz wrote: >> On 02/18/2015 02:06 PM, Mark Rutland wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> Please Cc lakml for patches in this area in future. >>> >>> On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 06:53:11PM +0000, Jorge Ramirez-Ortiz wrote: >>>> [PATCH 1/2] Documentation: bindings: add optional fifo size property >>>> [PATCH 2/2] drivers/tty: pl011: read fifo size from OF if present >>>> >>>> >>>> These patches aim at resolving an issue present on some of the amba pl011 >>>> uarts. >>> Which systems are affected? Neither of your two patches add the property >>> to any dts file. >> >> yes, the system affected is still under revision (I should have mentioned) >> https://lkml.org/lkml/2015/2/5/144 > Sorry, I can't follow that thread. What FIFO size do your UARTs have? > What is the full ID of the UARTs? > I just added a temporary printk to my logs for clarity [ 3.328845] name = f7111000.uart, id = 0x241011, amba_rev = 2, fifo size = 64 -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe devicetree" in the body of a message to majordomo-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
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* [version 2] amba uarts - arm type uarts fifo size provided by device tree [not found] <amba uarts - arm type uarts fifo size provided by device tree> @ 2015-02-18 20:07 ` Jorge Ramirez-Ortiz [not found] ` <1424290069-8760-1-git-send-email-jorge.ramirez-ortiz-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org> 0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread From: Jorge Ramirez-Ortiz @ 2015-02-18 20:07 UTC (permalink / raw) To: jorge.ramirez-ortiz-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A, devicetree-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA, linux-lFZ/pmaqli7XmaaqVzeoHQ, linux-arm-kernel-IAPFreCvJWM7uuMidbF8XUB+6BGkLq7r [PATCH 1/2] Documentation: bindings: add optional fifo size property [PATCH 2/2] drivers/tty: pl011: read fifo size from OF if present [updated] These patches aim at resolving an issue present on some of the amba pl011 uarts. They were developed for the Hisilicon Hi6220 SoC where the fifo size on the uarts is 64 despite the amba revision having been set to 1. This makes the current way of detecting the fifo size based on the value of the amba_rev non usable. A mechanism for those uarts to retrieve the fifo sizes using the optional property "fifo-size" in the device tree declared in PATCH1/2 is implemented under PATCH2/2. This device tree setting shall take precedence over any other calculated values. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe devicetree" in the body of a message to majordomo-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
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* [PATCH 2/2] drivers/tty: pl011: read fifo size from OF if present [not found] ` <1424290069-8760-1-git-send-email-jorge.ramirez-ortiz-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org> @ 2015-02-18 20:07 ` Jorge Ramirez-Ortiz [not found] ` <1424290069-8760-3-git-send-email-jorge.ramirez-ortiz-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org> 0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread From: Jorge Ramirez-Ortiz @ 2015-02-18 20:07 UTC (permalink / raw) To: jorge.ramirez-ortiz-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A, devicetree-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA, linux-lFZ/pmaqli7XmaaqVzeoHQ, linux-arm-kernel-IAPFreCvJWM7uuMidbF8XUB+6BGkLq7r Signed-off-by: Jorge Ramirez-Ortiz <jorge.ramirez-ortiz-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org> --- drivers/tty/serial/amba-pl011.c | 5 +++++ 1 file changed, 5 insertions(+) diff --git a/drivers/tty/serial/amba-pl011.c b/drivers/tty/serial/amba-pl011.c index 02016fc..c6a2dd8 100644 --- a/drivers/tty/serial/amba-pl011.c +++ b/drivers/tty/serial/amba-pl011.c @@ -84,6 +84,11 @@ struct vendor_data { static unsigned int get_fifosize_arm(struct amba_device *dev) { + u32 val; + + if (!of_property_read_u32(dev->dev.of_node, "fifo-size", &val)) + return val; + return amba_rev(dev) < 3 ? 16 : 32; } -- 1.9.1 -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe devicetree" in the body of a message to majordomo-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html ^ permalink raw reply related [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
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* Re: [PATCH 2/2] drivers/tty: pl011: read fifo size from OF if present [not found] ` <1424290069-8760-3-git-send-email-jorge.ramirez-ortiz-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org> @ 2015-03-03 15:39 ` Jorge Ramirez-Ortiz 0 siblings, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread From: Jorge Ramirez-Ortiz @ 2015-03-03 15:39 UTC (permalink / raw) To: jorge.ramirez-ortiz-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A, devicetree-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA, linux-lFZ/pmaqli7XmaaqVzeoHQ, linux-arm-kernel-IAPFreCvJWM7uuMidbF8XUB+6BGkLq7r On 02/18/2015 03:07 PM, Jorge Ramirez-Ortiz wrote: > Signed-off-by: Jorge Ramirez-Ortiz <jorge.ramirez-ortiz-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org> > --- > drivers/tty/serial/amba-pl011.c | 5 +++++ > 1 file changed, 5 insertions(+) > > diff --git a/drivers/tty/serial/amba-pl011.c b/drivers/tty/serial/amba-pl011.c > index 02016fc..c6a2dd8 100644 > --- a/drivers/tty/serial/amba-pl011.c > +++ b/drivers/tty/serial/amba-pl011.c > @@ -84,6 +84,11 @@ struct vendor_data { > > static unsigned int get_fifosize_arm(struct amba_device *dev) > { > + u32 val; > + > + if (!of_property_read_u32(dev->dev.of_node, "fifo-size", &val)) > + return val; > + > return amba_rev(dev) < 3 ? 16 : 32; > } > just following up on this patch. is anything else required? -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe devicetree" in the body of a message to majordomo-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
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