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From: Yann Droneaud <ydroneaud@opteya.com>
To: Rob Herring <robherring2@gmail.com>
Cc: "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"devicetree@vger.kernel.org" <devicetree@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org"
	<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	licensing@fsf.org
Subject: Re: Device Tree Blob (DTB) licence
Date: Fri, 22 May 2015 12:05:48 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1432289148.5304.58.camel@opteya.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAL_Jsq+T5c7qornpRVCduEjUSCeM+0xqbtVYovtH76y=4BqhLQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

Le mardi 05 mai 2015 à 11:41 -0500, Rob Herring a écrit :
> On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 5:05 AM, Yann Droneaud <ydroneaud@opteya.com> 
> wrote:
> > 
> > I believe Device Tree Blob (.dtb file) built from kernel's Device 
> > Tree
> > Sources (.dts, which #include .dtsi, which #include .h) using 
> > Device
> > Tree Compiler (dtc) are covered by GNU General Public Licence v2
> > (GPLv2), but cannot find any reference.
> 
> By default yes, but we've been steering people to dual license them 
> GPL/BSD.
> 

Can you give me the rationale behind such dual licenses requirement ?

If a BSD .dts includes GPLv2 .h, the whole is covered by GPLv2,
so I cannot find a case where a BSD covered .dts file could be used
alone within BSD license rights.

> > As most .dtsi in arch/arm/boot/dts/ are covered by GPLv2, and,
> > as most .h in include/dt-bindings/ are also covered by GPLv2,
> > the source code is likely covered by GPLv2.
> > 
> > Then this source code is translated in a different language 
> > (flattened
> > device tree), so the resulting translation is also likely covered 
> > by
> > GPLv2.
> > 
> > So, when I'm proposed to download a .dtb file from a random vendor,
> > can I require to get the associated source code ?
> 
> I believe so yes. However, you already have the "source" for the most
> part. Just run "dtc -I dtb -O dts <dtb file>". You loose the
> preprocessing and include structure though (not necessarily a bad
> thing IMO).
> 
> Then the question is what is the license on that generated dts!
> 

That's also a good question.

Is this a form a "reverse engineering" with all the legalese burden ?

Anyway without a clear information attached to the DTB, it's difficult
to tell which licence cover the "decompiled" version.

> > Anyway, for a .dtb file generated from kernel sources, it's rather
> > painful to look after all .dts, .dtsi, .h, to find what kind of
> > licences are applicables, as some are covered by BSD, dual licensed
> > (any combination of X11, MIT, BSD, GPLv2).
> 
> I imagine the includes cause some licensing discrepancies if you dug 
> into it.
> 

It's a pity, and it's probably something to sort out.

DTB files produced as part of kernel compilation should have a well
known license attached by default.

Regards.

-- 
Yann Droneaud
OPTEYA

  reply	other threads:[~2015-05-22 10:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-05-05 10:05 Device Tree Blob (DTB) licence Yann Droneaud
2015-05-05 16:41 ` Rob Herring
2015-05-22 10:05   ` Yann Droneaud [this message]
     [not found]     ` <1432289148.5304.58.camel-RlY5vtjFyJ3QT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-22 16:26       ` Rob Herring
2015-05-28 12:31         ` Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult
2015-05-22 19:27     ` Yann Droneaud
2015-05-25  7:14       ` Rob Landley
     [not found]         ` <CAOS_Y6Q37ps+VEnzUZ_uwX++qrRm9Hgx45Q_pmiZSLSNjmKwZg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-25 20:04           ` Willy Tarreau
2015-05-28 12:32           ` Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult
     [not found]             ` <55670AD4.8020705-d/C+FbuhHiA@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-28 13:34               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
     [not found]                 ` <20150528133429.GD2067-l+eeeJia6m9vn6HldHNs0ANdhmdF6hFW@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-28 16:52                   ` Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult
     [not found]                     ` <556747E4.6070403-d/C+FbuhHiA@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-29  6:47                       ` Willy Tarreau
     [not found]                         ` <20150529064741.GB25351-K+wRfnb2/UA@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-29 11:35                           ` Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult
     [not found]                             ` <55684F07.7050402-d/C+FbuhHiA@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-29 22:16                               ` David Lang
2015-05-30 15:28                                 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
     [not found]                                 ` <alpine.DEB.2.02.1505291512000.4429-UEhY+ZBZOcqqLGM74eQ/YA@public.gmane.org>
2015-06-01 13:12                                   ` One Thousand Gnomes
2015-06-01 15:19                                     ` Warner Losh
2015-05-29  3:31             ` Rob Landley
     [not found]               ` <CAOS_Y6QXHdWfi9qkRmw=mCn0mqha5-NrzumBMqJ61_YRndypLA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-29 15:10                 ` Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult
     [not found]                   ` <55688182.3010606-d/C+FbuhHiA@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-29 22:21                     ` David Lang
2015-05-30  2:43                   ` Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD
2015-06-22 12:57           ` Pavel Machek
2015-05-30 19:59     ` Jeroen Hofstee
     [not found]       ` <556A169E.8030909-D9wZyEIIrd305oU+jsXUgg@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-31  7:12         ` Warner Losh
2015-06-01 13:17           ` One Thousand Gnomes

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