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From: James Liao <jamesjj.liao-NuS5LvNUpcJWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
To: Heiko Stuebner <heiko-4mtYJXux2i+zQB+pC5nmwQ@public.gmane.org>
Cc: linux-mediatek-IAPFreCvJWM7uuMidbF8XUB+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org,
	Eddie Huang <eddie.huang-NuS5LvNUpcJWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>,
	Matthias Brugger
	<matthias.bgg-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	devicetree-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	Sascha Hauer <s.hauer-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org>,
	linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	linux-arm-kernel-IAPFreCvJWM7uuMidbF8XUB+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org,
	djkurtz-F7+t8E8rja9g9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] arm64: dts: mt8173: add clock_null
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 11:38:37 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1434944317.25948.8.camel@mtksdaap41> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8371528.SNAmOgosfF@phil>

Hi Heiko,

On Fri, 2015-06-19 at 13:36 +0200, Heiko Stuebner wrote:
> Am Donnerstag, 18. Juni 2015, 18:15:03 schrieb Heiko Stuebner:
> > Am Donnerstag, 18. Juni 2015, 13:29:11 schrieb Eddie Huang:
> > > Add clk_null, which represents clocks that can not / need not
> > > controlled by software.
> > > There are many clocks' parent set to clk_null.
> > 
> > Devicetree is supposed to describe hardware, and ideally not what software
> > does with it. If the clock simply cannot be controlled by software, it will
> > still have a rate and I think it should probably be modelled - similarly we
> > sometimes have fixed regulators that also are not software controllable.
> > 
> > 
> > While it might be ok to define dummy clocks as a temporary stopgap, these
> > should definitly be marked as such. This clk_null at least sounds like there
> > is no plan to replace this with a real solution at some point.
> > 
> > And of course a bit of context would be cool, to know which type of clocks
> > this actually replaces.
> 
> After looking a bit more into this, I'm feel that the clk_null approach is 
> wrong.
> 
> For one, even if the clk_null stuff would be ok, the binding doc of the clock 
> controller does not describe the need of this specific clock at all.
> 
> 
> The other more important point, looking at clk-mt8173 I see at least these 
> clocks being set as children of "clk_null":
> 
> static const struct mtk_fixed_factor root_clk_alias[] __initconst = {
> 	FACTOR(CLK_TOP_CLKPH_MCK_O, "clkph_mck_o", "clk_null", 1, 1),
> 	FACTOR(CLK_TOP_DPI, "dpi_ck", "clk_null", 1, 1),
> 	FACTOR(CLK_TOP_USB_SYSPLL_125M, "usb_syspll_125m", "clk_null", 1, 1),
> 	FACTOR(CLK_TOP_HDMITX_DIG_CTS, "hdmitx_dig_cts", "clk_null", 1, 1),
> };
> 
> 
> These look more like they are fed from some external source to the clock 
> controller? I did ask Matthias but he also couldn't find anything describing 
> where these clocks actually come from.

Some clocks such as clkph_mck_o, we don't really care where they come
from and what frequencies are. We model these clocks just because they
or their derived clocks can be the source of topckgen muxes. Is there a
better way to model "don't care" clocks?


Best regards,

James



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Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-06-18  5:29 [PATCH] arm64: dts: mt8173: add clock_null Eddie Huang
     [not found] ` <1434605351-64592-1-git-send-email-eddie.huang-NuS5LvNUpcJWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2015-06-18 16:15   ` Heiko Stuebner
2015-06-19 11:36     ` Heiko Stuebner
2015-06-22  3:38       ` James Liao [this message]
2015-06-22 12:53         ` Heiko Stübner
2015-06-24  7:54           ` James Liao
2015-06-24 10:24             ` Heiko Stübner
2015-06-30  9:07               ` James Liao
2015-07-01  6:49                 ` Sascha Hauer
2015-07-01 11:54                   ` Daniel Kurtz
     [not found]                     ` <CAGS+omBdz2df7ykYpx5Gh1B2Ym+XhpOPOOUu0a_qg7tJKqOy6A-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-02  3:06                       ` James Liao
2015-07-02  4:23                         ` Daniel Kurtz
     [not found]                           ` <CAGS+omCk50Q5b=ey5v1z2gha5Ybc+Fus0Ls+S=5n08xu7Svacw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-03  7:45                             ` James Liao
2015-07-03  8:38                               ` Heiko Stübner
     [not found]                   ` <20150701064935.GC18611-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-02  2:05                     ` James Liao
2015-07-07 13:07   ` Sascha Hauer
     [not found]     ` <20150707130732.GD18561-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-07 14:15       ` Daniel Kurtz
     [not found]         ` <CAGS+omCgSjLZ2Ae5DqfmEm-2BrxQqw2ztxUCxBSngNSXxabtbg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-07 14:36           ` Sascha Hauer
2015-07-07 15:10             ` Daniel Kurtz
     [not found]               ` <CAGS+omChOC-EYsmA5ytT+ho0UXvcL1-mjK4Z8=EgboKzwWmtyw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-08  2:37                 ` Eddie Huang
2015-07-08  5:44                   ` Sascha Hauer
2015-07-10  7:27                     ` Eddie Huang
2015-07-10  8:11                       ` Daniel Kurtz
     [not found]                         ` <CAGS+omB2CsiYVXSGXo=Y_6xMDNRVC6AsFdv=SxOVh5t-fT7E_w-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-10 10:29                           ` Eddie Huang

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