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From: Ian Campbell <ian.campbell-Sxgqhf6Nn4DQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
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Subject: Re: [Xen-devel] [PATCH] efi/libstub/fdt: Standardize the names of EFI stub parameters
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2015 14:30:30 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1441891830.24450.384.camel@citrix.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <55F19D0202000078000A1B54-rw/UEucdPrvD8XXLLHKrIiOjQekVJEpY@public.gmane.org>

On Thu, 2015-09-10 at 07:08 -0600, Jan Beulich wrote:
> > > > On 10.09.15 at 14:58, <ian.campbell-Sxgqhf6Nn4DQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> > On Thu, 2015-09-10 at 13:15 +0100, Mark Rutland wrote:
> > 
> > > > In any case this should be separate from the shim ABI discussion.
> > > 
> > > I disagree; I think this is very much relevant to the ABI discussion.
> > > That's not to say that I insist on a particular approach, but I think
> > > that they need to be considered together.
> > 
> > Taking a step back, the reason for using the EFI stub parameters is
> > only
> > (AFAIK) in order to be able to locate the ACPI RDSP (the root table
> > pointer), which as it happens is normally passed via one of the EFI
> > firmware tables.
> > 
> > If there was a way to achieve that goal (i.e. another way to find the
> > RSDP)
> > without opening the can of UEFI worms then we could consider that
> > opiton
> > too.
> > 
> > a way != the legacy x86 thing of scanning low memory of the signature,
> > of
> > course.
> 
> But even x86 doesn't do that (other than as a fallback) on EFI.

Indeed, I was referring legacy (non-EFI) mode.

>  The
> configuration table is available to Dom0 (via XENPF_firmware_info:
> XEN_FW_EFI_INFO:XEN_FW_EFI_CONFIG_TABLE).

Under ARM we find out we are running under Xen from the ACPI tables, so
there is a chicken and egg situation there.

Not insoluble I'm sure, if we want to go down this route.
Ian.
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-09-10 13:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-09-10  8:41 [PATCH] efi/libstub/fdt: Standardize the names of EFI stub parameters Shannon Zhao
     [not found] ` <1441874516-11364-1-git-send-email-zhaoshenglong-hv44wF8Li93QT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-09-10  9:52   ` Mark Rutland
2015-09-10 10:19     ` Stefano Stabellini
     [not found]       ` <alpine.DEB.2.02.1509101116580.2672-7Z66fg9igcxYtxbxJUhB2Dgeux46jI+i@public.gmane.org>
2015-09-10 11:24         ` Mark Rutland
2015-09-10 11:37           ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-09-10 12:15             ` Mark Rutland
2015-09-10 12:58               ` [Xen-devel] " Ian Campbell
2015-09-10 13:08                 ` Jan Beulich
     [not found]                   ` <55F19D0202000078000A1B54-rw/UEucdPrvD8XXLLHKrIiOjQekVJEpY@public.gmane.org>
2015-09-10 13:30                     ` Ian Campbell [this message]
2015-09-10 13:52               ` Stefano Stabellini
     [not found]                 ` <alpine.DEB.2.02.1509101429480.2672-7Z66fg9igcxYtxbxJUhB2Dgeux46jI+i@public.gmane.org>
2015-09-10 14:13                   ` Leif Lindholm
2015-09-10 14:49                   ` Mark Rutland
2015-09-10 16:10                     ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-09-10 16:23                       ` Mark Rutland
2015-09-11 12:46                         ` Daniel Kiper
     [not found]                           ` <20150911124643.GB4530-fJNZiO034lp9pOct4yEdx/3oZC3j2Omk@public.gmane.org>
2015-09-11 13:14                             ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-09-11 13:30                               ` Ard Biesheuvel
2015-09-11 15:45                                 ` Daniel Kiper
2015-09-14  8:42                                   ` Shannon Zhao
2015-09-14  9:09                                     ` Ard Biesheuvel
2015-09-14  9:31                                       ` Shannon Zhao
2015-09-11 16:33                                 ` Mark Rutland
2015-09-11 16:25                             ` Mark Rutland
2015-09-12 11:36                               ` Daniel Kiper
2015-09-14  9:25                                 ` Mark Rutland
2015-09-14  9:47                                   ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-09-14 12:19                                   ` Daniel Kiper
     [not found]                       ` <alpine.DEB.2.02.1509101655020.2672-7Z66fg9igcxYtxbxJUhB2Dgeux46jI+i@public.gmane.org>
2015-09-11 11:00                         ` Ian Campbell
2015-09-10 12:55             ` Jan Beulich
2015-09-10 14:53               ` Mark Rutland
2015-09-10 15:06                 ` Jan Beulich
     [not found]                   ` <55F1B89802000078000A1C9B-rw/UEucdPrvD8XXLLHKrIiOjQekVJEpY@public.gmane.org>
2015-09-11 16:36                     ` Mark Rutland
2015-09-10 11:32 ` Andrew Turner
     [not found]   ` <20150910123251.7e0810d1-I/y7IllHY3//9pzu0YdTqQ@public.gmane.org>
2015-09-10 11:48     ` Julien Grall
2015-09-10 12:05       ` Roger Pau Monné
     [not found]         ` <55F1721D.1010801-Sxgqhf6Nn4DQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-09-10 12:53           ` [Xen-devel] " Julien Grall
2015-09-17 11:43 ` Shannon Zhao

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