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From: Philipp Zabel <p.zabel-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org>
To: Martin Blumenstingl
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/7] phy: meson: add USB2 PHY support for Meson8b and GXBB
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2016 17:28:28 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1473780508.10237.22.camel@pengutronix.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAFBinCDohOoFP_3GC+=tt6S7sPS308ao-yf+oGhdfwo-N-JnAA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>

Hi Martin,

Am Freitag, den 09.09.2016, 22:36 +0200 schrieb Martin Blumenstingl:
> On Fri, Sep 9, 2016 at 5:33 PM, Kevin Hilman <khilman-rdvid1DuHRBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> > Martin Blumenstingl <martin.blumenstingl-gM/Ye1E23mwN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org> writes:
> >
> >> On Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 10:53 PM, Ben Dooks <ben.dooks-4yDnlxn2s6sWdaTGBSpHTA@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> >>> On 08/09/16 21:42, Kevin Hilman wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Ben Dooks <ben.dooks-4yDnlxn2s6sWdaTGBSpHTA@public.gmane.org> writes:
> >>>>
> >>>>> On 08/09/16 20:52, Martin Blumenstingl wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 9:35 PM, Kevin Hilman <khilman-rdvid1DuHRBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> +     phy = devm_phy_create(&pdev->dev, NULL, &phy_meson_usb2_ops);
> >>>>>>>> +     if (IS_ERR(phy)) {
> >>>>>>>> +             dev_err(&pdev->dev, "failed to create PHY\n");
> >>>>>>>> +             return PTR_ERR(phy);
> >>>>>>>> +     }
> >>>>>>>> +
> >>>>>>>> +     if (usb_reset_refcnt++ == 0) {
> >>>>>>>> +             ret = device_reset(&pdev->dev);
> >>>>>>>> +             if (ret) {
> >>>>>>>> +                     dev_err(&phy->dev, "Failed to reset USB PHY\n");
> >>>>>>>> +                     return ret;
> >>>>>>>> +             }
> >>>>>>>> +     }
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> The ref count + reset here looks like something that could/should be
> >>>>>>> handled in a runtime PM callback.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Unfortunately that doesn't work (as Jerome found out) because both
> >>>>>> PHYs are sharing the same reset line.
> >>>>>> So if the second PHY would call device_reset then it would also reset
> >>>>>> the first PHY!
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> There's a comment above the declaration of usb_reset_refcnt which
> >>>>>> tries to explain this:
> >>>>>> "The PHYs are sharing a common reset line -> we are only allowed to
> >>>>>> reset once for all PHYs."
> >>>>>> Maybe I should move this comment to the "if (usb_reset_refcnt++ == 0)
> >>>>>> {" line to make it easier to see?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> pm-runtime has refcounting in it. When one of the nodes turns on,
> >>>>> the pm-runtime will call your driver to say there is a user when
> >>>>> this first use turns up.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> If all the sub-phys turn off and drop their refcount then the driver
> >>>>> is called to say there are no more users and you can go to sleep.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> After a chat w/Martin on IRC, It turns out runtime PM wont help here.
> >>>>
> >>>> The reason is because there are physically two PHY devices[1].  Those 2
> >>>> devices will be treated independely by runtime PM, and have separate
> >>>> use-counting, which means doing what I proposed would cause a reset to
> >>>> happen when either device was probed.
> >>>>
> >>>> So, I think it's OK as it is.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Surely you can do pm_runtime_get/put on the phy's parent platform
> >>> device and do it that way?
> >> could you please be more specific with that (do you mean pdev->dev.parent)?
> >> so we would use pm_runtime_{get_sync,put} with the parent, while we
> >> would still define the runtime_resume in our driver.
> >
> > You'd also need to do get/put on the children, but yes, that's what Ben
> > is suggesting.
> >
> > However, the problem with all of the solutions proposed (runtime PM ones
> > included) is that we're forcing a board-specific design issue (2 devices
> > sharing a reset line) into a driver that should not have any
> > board-specific assumptions in it.
> >
> > For example, if this driver is used on another platform where different
> > PHYs have different reset lines, then one of them (the unlucky one who
> > is not probed first) will never get reset.  So any form of per-device
> > ref-counting is not a portable solution.
> indeed, so in simple words we would need something like
> reset_control_do_once(rstc, RESET/ASSERT/DEASSERT) which would
> remember internally if any action has already been executed: if not it
> does a _reset, _assert or _deassert and otherwise it does nothing.
> 
> > I'm not sure yet how the reset framework is supposed to handle shared
> > reset lines, but that needs some investigation.  I quick glance and it
> > seems that reset controllers can have shared lines, so that should be
> > investigated.
> I added Philipp and Hans to this thread - maybe they can comment on this.
> To sum it up, our problem is:
> - there are two separate USB PHYs on Meson GXBB
> - both are sharing the same reset line (provided by the reset-meson driver)
> - during initialization of the PHYs we must only call
> reset_control_reset(rstc) once (if we do it for the first *and* second
> PHY then the first PHY gets confused once the second PHY uses the
> reset because the first PHY's state is reset as well)

If you have an initially asserted reset line and you can enable the
first module by deasserting the reset via reset_control_deassert (and
reset_control_assert to signal when the module may be disabled again
after use), shared resets are for you.

If you need a reset pulse or have no direct control over the reset line,
(device_reset), the reset framework currently has no solution for this.
The ugly thing about reset_control_once would be that it can't re-reset
modules when unloading and reloading driver modules.

A real solution for shared reset lines with reset pulses would have to
be some kind of reset request framework where if one module requests a
reset, the other module sharing the reset could be notified, and then
either veto the reset or, if possible, cease operations, store its
state, and prepare to be reset, too, and afterwards restore state. I'd
prefer not to think about this too much unless absolutely necessary.

regards
Philipp

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-09-13 15:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 77+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-09-04 21:31 [PATCH 0/7] usb/phy: Add Amlogic Meson8b and GXBB USB support Martin Blumenstingl
2016-09-04 21:31 ` [PATCH 1/7] clk: gxbb: expose USB clocks Martin Blumenstingl
2016-09-07  0:33   ` Stephen Boyd
2016-09-07 21:32     ` Martin Blumenstingl
     [not found]       ` <CAFBinCBwcVkXi9wVt1FGaEFdK+fsxz-r12ao89HwqozqLGtd7A-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2016-09-07 22:14         ` Stephen Boyd
     [not found]           ` <20160907221403.GA13062-sgV2jX0FEOL9JmXXK+q4OQ@public.gmane.org>
2016-09-08  2:24             ` Kevin Hilman
     [not found]   ` <20160904213152.25837-2-martin.blumenstingl-gM/Ye1E23mwN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2016-09-07 21:28     ` Stephen Boyd
2016-09-08 19:24       ` Kevin Hilman
2016-09-04 21:31 ` [PATCH 2/7] usb: dwc2: add support for Meson8b and GXBB SoCs Martin Blumenstingl
     [not found]   ` <20160904213152.25837-3-martin.blumenstingl-gM/Ye1E23mwN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2016-09-07 21:04     ` John Youn
     [not found] ` <20160904213152.25837-1-martin.blumenstingl-gM/Ye1E23mwN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2016-09-04 21:31   ` [PATCH 3/7] Documentation: dt-bindings: Add documentation for the Meson USB2 PHYs Martin Blumenstingl
2016-09-04 21:31   ` [PATCH 4/7] phy: meson: add USB2 PHY support for Meson8b and GXBB Martin Blumenstingl
2016-09-08 19:35     ` Kevin Hilman
     [not found]       ` <m260q6jibf.fsf-rdvid1DuHRBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2016-09-08 19:40         ` Ben Dooks
2016-09-08 19:52         ` Martin Blumenstingl
     [not found]           ` <CAFBinCA4Yvw5pbOFmJ8SqyOASADavyEPmHywSdOiUazcqe_Zmg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2016-09-08 20:20             ` Ben Dooks
2016-09-08 20:42               ` Kevin Hilman
2016-09-08 20:53                 ` Ben Dooks
     [not found]                   ` <ffdd0188-72bc-4575-f997-e8547f4c31d2-4yDnlxn2s6sWdaTGBSpHTA@public.gmane.org>
2016-09-08 21:48                     ` Martin Blumenstingl
2016-09-09 15:33                       ` Kevin Hilman
     [not found]                         ` <m2sht9gkau.fsf-rdvid1DuHRBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2016-09-09 16:14                           ` Martin Blumenstingl
     [not found]                             ` <CAFBinCCDDwydB+RP0CZKoAW5Suxotn224ZFVWvt2OGW3gNJR1g-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2016-09-09 17:04                               ` Kevin Hilman
2016-09-09 17:21                             ` Ben Dooks
     [not found]                               ` <b9730890-d98c-2c3a-8af1-96b8c394c30f-4yDnlxn2s6sWdaTGBSpHTA@public.gmane.org>
2016-09-09 20:37                                 ` Martin Blumenstingl
2016-09-16  8:19                             ` Kishon Vijay Abraham I
2016-09-16 13:47                               ` Arnd Bergmann
     [not found]                               ` <57DBAB2F.3040905-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>
2016-09-18 19:56                                 ` Martin Blumenstingl
     [not found]                                   ` <CAFBinCC5fhbtkNdc6MJs7veD+xVGC6Qb-jgX_pwvraP1x2JrhQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2016-09-19  4:59                                     ` Kishon Vijay Abraham I
     [not found]                                       ` <57DF70AF.4050002-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>
2016-09-19  7:37                                         ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-09-09 20:36                           ` Martin Blumenstingl
2016-09-11 13:44                             ` Martin Blumenstingl
     [not found]                               ` <CAFBinCDnMd0rtrvTMX-D_WNXHpVD8F=8Xn35jcK5jTUCre9ebA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2016-09-12 17:32                                 ` Kevin Hilman
     [not found]                             ` <CAFBinCDohOoFP_3GC+=tt6S7sPS308ao-yf+oGhdfwo-N-JnAA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2016-09-13 15:28                               ` Philipp Zabel [this message]
     [not found]                                 ` <1473780508.10237.22.camel-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org>
2016-09-13 18:38                                   ` Martin Blumenstingl
     [not found]                                     ` <CAFBinCC+izGS72TZuiiBu=DjtSmoZXRZ6r76M6rC8W7UTpSD6g-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2016-09-14  0:59                                       ` Kevin Hilman
     [not found]                                         ` <7hzinbmh40.fsf-rdvid1DuHRBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2016-09-14  8:36                                           ` Philipp Zabel
2016-09-14  8:37                                           ` Philipp Zabel
2016-09-14 21:09                                             ` Martin Blumenstingl
2016-09-14  8:37                                     ` Philipp Zabel
     [not found]                                       ` <1473842236.6816.0.camel-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org>
2016-09-14 21:23                                         ` Martin Blumenstingl
     [not found]                                           ` <CAFBinCDuj_nHtQ9xs0LMmqZT7Yr9SUw24_H2nAwULT7e9kRXag-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2016-09-15 10:30                                             ` Philipp Zabel
2016-09-04 21:31   ` [PATCH 5/7] ARM64: meson-gxbb: add USB Nodes Martin Blumenstingl
2016-09-05  0:23     ` Andreas Färber
2016-09-04 21:31   ` [PATCH 6/7] ARM64: meson-gxbb-p20x: Enable " Martin Blumenstingl
2016-09-04 21:31   ` [PATCH 7/7] ARM64: meson-gxbb-vega-s95: " Martin Blumenstingl
2016-09-11 13:41   ` [PATCH v2 0/6] usb/phy: Add Amlogic Meson8b and GXBB USB support Martin Blumenstingl
     [not found]     ` <20160911134111.31141-1-martin.blumenstingl-gM/Ye1E23mwN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2016-09-11 13:41       ` [PATCH v2 1/6] usb: dwc2: add support for Meson8b and GXBB SoCs Martin Blumenstingl
2016-09-14 16:11         ` Kevin Hilman
2016-09-14 18:12           ` John Youn
     [not found]             ` <0d587b46-4c6e-c2ec-a62e-5d0c5a5bd902-HKixBCOQz3hWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2016-09-14 18:17               ` Kevin Hilman
     [not found]                 ` <CAOi56cW+zJ8_Gf6xKMyKNk7YB1+MpWHrtmv=+Xxs0PZy9rAXqQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2016-09-14 18:26                   ` John Youn
2016-09-14 18:36                     ` Kevin Hilman
     [not found]         ` <20160911134111.31141-2-martin.blumenstingl-gM/Ye1E23mwN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2016-09-20 14:27           ` Rob Herring
2016-09-11 13:41       ` [PATCH v2 2/6] Documentation: dt-bindings: Add documentation for the Meson USB2 PHYs Martin Blumenstingl
2016-09-20 14:29         ` Rob Herring
2016-09-21 18:38           ` Kevin Hilman
2016-09-11 13:41       ` [PATCH v2 4/6] ARM64: meson-gxbb: add USB Nodes Martin Blumenstingl
     [not found]         ` <20160911134111.31141-5-martin.blumenstingl-gM/Ye1E23mwN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2016-09-15 22:10           ` Kevin Hilman
2016-09-11 13:41       ` [PATCH v2 5/6] ARM64: meson-gxbb-p20x: Enable " Martin Blumenstingl
2016-09-14 18:05         ` Kevin Hilman
     [not found]           ` <7h37l2mk6a.fsf-rdvid1DuHRBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2016-09-15 22:09             ` Kevin Hilman
2016-09-11 13:41     ` [PATCH v2 3/6] phy: meson: add USB2 PHY support for Meson8b and GXBB Martin Blumenstingl
2016-09-14 16:06       ` Kevin Hilman
     [not found]         ` <m2a8faxy72.fsf-rdvid1DuHRBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2016-09-17  4:17           ` Kishon Vijay Abraham I
     [not found]             ` <57DCC3CF.9090409-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>
2016-09-19 16:42               ` Kevin Hilman
2016-09-20  5:01                 ` Kishon Vijay Abraham I
     [not found]       ` <20160911134111.31141-4-martin.blumenstingl-gM/Ye1E23mwN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2016-09-14 21:30         ` Martin Blumenstingl
2016-09-11 13:41     ` [PATCH v2 6/6] ARM64: meson-gxbb-vega-s95: Enable USB Nodes Martin Blumenstingl
     [not found]       ` <20160911134111.31141-7-martin.blumenstingl-gM/Ye1E23mwN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2016-09-15 22:10         ` Kevin Hilman
2016-10-01 12:18   ` [PATCH v3 0/3] usb/phy: Add Amlogic Meson8b and GXBB USB support Martin Blumenstingl
     [not found]     ` <20161001121900.1168-1-martin.blumenstingl-gM/Ye1E23mwN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2016-10-01 12:18       ` [PATCH v3 1/3] Documentation: dt-bindings: update the meson-usb2-phy example Martin Blumenstingl
2016-10-09  1:28         ` Rob Herring
2016-10-01 12:18       ` [PATCH v3 2/3] Documentation: dt-bindings: rename meson-usb2-phy to meson8b-usb2-phy Martin Blumenstingl
2016-10-09  1:28         ` Rob Herring
2016-10-01 12:19       ` [PATCH v3 3/3] phy: meson: add USB2 PHY support for Meson8b and GXBB Martin Blumenstingl
2016-10-13 20:27     ` [PATCH v3 0/3] usb/phy: Add Amlogic Meson8b and GXBB USB support Martin Blumenstingl
2016-10-19 10:52       ` Kishon Vijay Abraham I

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