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From: Philipp Zabel <p.zabel@pengutronix.de>
To: Peter Rosin <peda@axentia.se>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	devicetree@vger.kernel.org, Lars-Peter Clausen <lars@metafoo.de>,
	Wolfram Sang <wsa@the-dreams.de>,
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	linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, kernel@pengutronix.de,
	Paul Gortmaker <paul.gortmaker@windriver.com>,
	Rob Herring <robh+dt@kernel.org>,
	linux-i2c@vger.kernel.org,
	Peter Meerwald-Stadler <pmeerw@pmeerw.net>,
	Hartmut Knaack <knaack.h@gmx.de>,
	Colin Ian King <colin.king@canonical.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Jonathan Cameron <jic23@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v13 02/10] dt-bindings: document devicetree bindings for mux-controllers and gpio-mux
Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2017 18:34:01 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1492619641.2970.178.camel@pengutronix.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <687b26d7-7d80-e8e1-5aa8-a4e8bc070e42@axentia.se>

On Wed, 2017-04-19 at 13:23 +0200, Peter Rosin wrote:
> On 2017-04-19 13:05, Philipp Zabel wrote:
> > On Wed, 2017-04-19 at 12:41 +0200, Peter Rosin wrote:
> >> On 2017-04-19 11:17, Philipp Zabel wrote:
> >>> On Tue, 2017-04-18 at 15:36 +0200, Peter Rosin wrote:
> >>>> If I got things wrong when I skimmed whatever I came across, and if the
> >>>> mmio register is the only mux control option in the stars, it becomes
> >>>> less obvious... It's of course still possible to hook into the mux
> >>>> subsystem, but the benefit is questionable. And you do get the extra
> >>>> device tree node. You could of course also implement a mux driver
> >>>> outside of drivers/mux and thus make use of the mux api, but it's tiny
> >>>> and any benefit is truly small.
> >>>
> >>> What I wondered mostly is whether it would be a good idea to move the
> >>> OF-graph ports into the mux controller node, and let the video capture
> >>> device be the consumer of the mux.
> >>> But this wouldn't fit well with the clear split between the mux
> >>> controller and the actual mux hardware in the mux DT bindings.
> >>
> >> I have tried to do something similar. I think. The current
> >> drivers/i2c/muxes/i2c-mux-gpio.c is a good candidate for the same thing
> >> IIUC.
> >>
> >> That dedicated driver and the general purpose i2c mux driver does pretty
> >> much the same thing with these two DT snippets:
> >>
> >> Dedicated i2c-mux-gpio DT snippet:
> >>
> >> 	i2c-mux {
> >> 		compatible = "i2c-mux-gpio";
> >> 		i2c-parent = <&i2c1>;
> >>
> >> 		mux-gpios = <&gpio1 22 0 &gpio1 23 0>;
> >>
> >> 		#address-cells = <1>;
> >> 		#size-cells = <0>;
> >>
> >> 		i2c@1 {
> >> 			...
> >> 		};
> >>
> >> 		i2c@3 {
> >> 			...
> >> 		};
> >> 	};
> >>
> >> General purpose mux DT snippet:
> >>
> >> 	mux: mux-controller {
> >> 		compatible = "gpio-mux";
> >> 		#mux-control-cells = <0>;
> >>
> >> 		mux-gpios = <&gpio1 22 0 &gpio1 23 0>;
> >> 	};
> >>
> >> 	i2c-mux {
> >> 		compatible = "i2c-mux";
> >> 		i2c-parent = <&i2c1>;
> >>
> >> 		mux-controls = <&mux>;
> >>
> >> 		#address-cells = <1>;
> >> 		#size-cells = <0>;
> >>
> >> 		i2c@1 {
> >> 			...
> >> 		};
> >>
> >> 		i2c@3 {
> >> 			...
> >> 		};
> >> 	};
> > 
> > Yes, replace i2c-mux with video-mux and the i2c@x nodes with port@x
> > nodes, and this is very close to what I am thinking about.
> > 
> >> I would love to find a way to cleanly get the mux framework to handle
> >> the first DT as well, and thus being able to obsolete the dedicated
> >> i2c-mux-gpio driver. I have not figured out how to accomplish that
> >> without abusing the driver-model to a point that it's not working.
> >> Help with that task is dearly appreciated.
> >>
> >> What I have stumbled on, I think, is that two drivers needs to be
> >> instantiated from the same DT node. At the same time, I need the
> >> mux framework to handle the current out-of-node thing with a
> >> phandle as well, so that several mux consumers can share a common
> >> mux controller. My understanding of these matters are apparently not
> >> deep enough...
> > 
> > Not necessarily, if the framework could export a function to create a
> > gpio/mmio mux_chip on a given device and the gpio-mux and *-mux-gpio
> > drivers just reuse that.
> 
> I've been up that creek. Why should the gpio mux be special cased?

You are right, this does not scale.

> That's not clean, the implication is that all mux consumers need
> to handle the gpio case and have a special compatible for that
> case etc. Then someone thinks the DT should look equally "clean" for
> some i2c based mux, and the weeds start piling up. This is exactly
> what we don't want. We want the mux consumer drivers to be totally
> agnostic about the fact that they happen to use a gpio mux.

If you want to have i2c-mux-gpio and i2c-mux compatibles, and a single
driver to handle them both, it must at least match both compatibles, so
it can't be completely agnostic.

Why not then have it call

	if (/* compatible == "i2c-mux" */)
		mux = devm_mux_control_get(dev, NULL);
	else /* if (compatible == "i2c-mux-gpio/mmio/etc.") */
		mux = devm_mux_control_create(dev);

? The mux framework core could hold a list of those <usage>-mux-<type>
compatibles and dispatch creation of the correct mux (or mux platform
device, if necessary).

regards
Philipp

  reply	other threads:[~2017-04-19 16:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-04-13 16:43 [PATCH v13 00/10] mux controller abstraction and iio/i2c muxes Peter Rosin
2017-04-13 16:43 ` [PATCH v13 01/10] devres: trivial whitespace fix Peter Rosin
2017-04-13 16:43 ` [PATCH v13 02/10] dt-bindings: document devicetree bindings for mux-controllers and gpio-mux Peter Rosin
     [not found]   ` <1492101794-13444-3-git-send-email-peda-koto5C5qi+TLoDKTGw+V6w@public.gmane.org>
2017-04-18 10:06     ` Philipp Zabel
2017-04-18 13:36       ` Peter Rosin
     [not found]         ` <17135062-e58a-b50e-ac85-5f0f0b73d958-koto5C5qi+TLoDKTGw+V6w@public.gmane.org>
2017-04-19  9:17           ` Philipp Zabel
2017-04-19 10:41             ` Peter Rosin
2017-04-19 11:05               ` Philipp Zabel
     [not found]                 ` <1492599958.2970.84.camel-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org>
2017-04-19 11:23                   ` Peter Rosin
2017-04-19 16:34                     ` Philipp Zabel [this message]
2017-04-13 16:43 ` [PATCH v13 04/10] iio: inkern: api for manipulating ext_info of iio channels Peter Rosin
     [not found] ` <1492101794-13444-1-git-send-email-peda-koto5C5qi+TLoDKTGw+V6w@public.gmane.org>
2017-04-13 16:43   ` [PATCH v13 03/10] mux: minimal mux subsystem and gpio-based mux controller Peter Rosin
     [not found]     ` <1492101794-13444-4-git-send-email-peda-koto5C5qi+TLoDKTGw+V6w@public.gmane.org>
2017-04-18  8:34       ` Philipp Zabel
2017-04-18  8:51       ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2017-04-18 10:59         ` Peter Rosin
     [not found]           ` <bdeecccf-02d6-226b-8516-1d41e3602a7a-koto5C5qi+TLoDKTGw+V6w@public.gmane.org>
2017-04-18 11:44             ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2017-04-18 21:53               ` Peter Rosin
     [not found]                 ` <aacdc359-e46d-7d1a-d959-63d4ecb99fde-koto5C5qi+TLoDKTGw+V6w@public.gmane.org>
2017-04-19  2:23                   ` Joe Perches
2017-04-20 21:53                   ` Peter Rosin
2017-04-21 23:28                     ` Peter Rosin
2017-05-05 13:19           ` Peter Rosin
2017-04-19  9:06     ` Philipp Zabel
     [not found]       ` <1492592817.2970.14.camel-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org>
2017-04-19 12:00         ` Peter Rosin
2017-04-19 13:49           ` Philipp Zabel
2017-04-19 21:04             ` Peter Rosin
2017-04-21 14:18     ` Philipp Zabel
2017-04-21 15:08       ` Peter Rosin
2017-04-21 14:23     ` Philipp Zabel
2017-04-21 14:32       ` Peter Rosin
     [not found]         ` <9e3d48c4-0dbc-3e80-c653-b0357abf1d6f-koto5C5qi+TLoDKTGw+V6w@public.gmane.org>
2017-04-21 14:41           ` Philipp Zabel
2017-04-21 14:55             ` Peter Rosin
2017-04-21 15:19               ` Philipp Zabel
2017-04-13 16:43   ` [PATCH v13 05/10] dt-bindings: iio: io-channel-mux: document io-channel-mux bindings Peter Rosin
2017-04-13 16:43   ` [PATCH v13 06/10] iio: multiplexer: new iio category and iio-mux driver Peter Rosin
2017-04-13 16:43   ` [PATCH v13 09/10] dt-bindings: mux-adg792a: document devicetree bindings for ADG792A/G mux Peter Rosin
2017-04-13 16:43   ` [PATCH v13 10/10] mux: adg792a: add mux controller driver for ADG792A/G Peter Rosin
2017-04-13 16:43 ` [PATCH v13 07/10] dt-bindings: i2c: i2c-mux: document general purpose i2c-mux bindings Peter Rosin
2017-04-13 16:43 ` [PATCH v13 08/10] i2c: i2c-mux-gpmux: new driver Peter Rosin

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