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From: Arnd Bergmann <arnd-r2nGTMty4D4@public.gmane.org>
To: Hanjun Guo <hanjun.guo-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
Cc: linux-arm-kernel-IAPFreCvJWM7uuMidbF8XUB+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org,
	Ganapatrao Kulkarni
	<gpkulkarni-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	"devicetree-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org"
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	Steve Capper
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	Al Stone <al.stone-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>,
	Ard Biesheuvel
	<ard.biesheuvel-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>,
	msalter-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org,
	Will Deacon <Will.Deacon-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>,
	Leif Lindholm
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	Roy Franz <roy.franz-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>,
	Rob Herring <robh+dt-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>,
	Shannon Zhao
	<zhaoshenglong-hv44wF8Li93QT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	Grant Likely
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	jchandra-dY08KVG/lbpWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org,
	Ganapatrao Kulkarni
	<ganapatrao.kulkarni-M3mlKVOIwJVv6pq1l3V1OdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v2 2/4] Documentation: arm64/arm: dt bindings for numa.
Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2014 15:20:27 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1833364.xuE8O3LGeh@wuerfel> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <548960F3.7070405-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>

On Thursday 11 December 2014 17:16:35 Hanjun Guo wrote:
> On 2014年12月10日 18:57, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> > On Wednesday 26 November 2014 17:12:49 Hanjun Guo wrote:
> > The above topology is not easy to represent, but I think it would work
> > like this (ignoring the threads/cores/clusters on the socket, which
> > would also need to be described in a full DT), using multiple logical
> > paths between the nodes:
> >
> > socket 0
> > ibm,associativity = <0 0 0 0>, <1 1 1 0>, <2 2 0 0>,  0 0 0>;
> >
> > socket 1
> > ibm,associativity = <1 1 1 1>, <0 0 0 1>, <2 2 2 1>,  3 1 1>;
> >
> > socket 2
> > ibm,associativity = <2 2 2 2>, <0 0 2 2>, <1 1 1 2>,  3 3 2>;
> >
> > socket 3
> > ibm,associativity =  3 3 3>, <0 3 3 3>, <1 1 3 3>, <2 2 2 3>;
> >
> > This describes four levels or hierarchy, with the lowest level
> > being a single CPU core on one socket, and four paths between
> > the sockets. To compute the associativity between two sockets,
> > you need to look at each combination of paths to find the best
> > match.
> >
> > Comparing sockets 0 and 1, the best matches are <1 1 1 0>
> > with <1 1 1 1>, and <0 0 0 0> with <0 0 0 1>. In each case, the
> > associativity is "3", meaning the first three entries match.
> >
> > Comparing sockets 0 and 3, we have four equally bad matches
> > that each only match in the highest-level domain, e.g. <0 0 0 0>
> > with <0 3 3 3>, so the associativity is only "1", and that means
> > the two nodes are less closely associated than two neighboring
> > ones.
> >
> > With the algorithm that powerpc uses to turn associativity into
> > distance, 2**(numlevels - associativity), this would put the
> > distance of neighboring nodes at "2", and the longest distance
> > at "8".
> 
> Thanks for the explain, I can understand how it works now,
> a bit complicated for me and I think the distance property
> "node-matrix" in Ganapatrao's patch is straight forward,
> what do you think?

I still think we should go the whole way of having something compatible
with the existing bindings, possibly using different property names
if there are objections to using the "ibm," prefix.

The associativity property is more expressive and lets you describe
things that you can't describe with the mem-map/cpu-map properties,
e.g. devices that are part of the NUMA hierarchy but not associated
to exactly one last-level node.

	Arnd
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-12-12 14:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-11-21 21:23 [RFC PATCH v2 0/4] arm64:numa: Add numa support for arm64 platforms Ganapatrao Kulkarni
2014-11-21 21:23 ` [RFC PATCH v2 1/4] arm64: defconfig: increase NR_CPUS range to 2-128 Ganapatrao Kulkarni
     [not found]   ` <1416605010-10442-2-git-send-email-ganapatrao.kulkarni-M3mlKVOIwJVv6pq1l3V1OdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2014-11-24 11:53     ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-12-09  1:57       ` Zi Shen Lim
     [not found]         ` <CAMDttNe33ie9vgyEn8GHz+8isadaDfXXUJcp5mQM-42_mx3Pbw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-12-09  8:27           ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-12-24 12:33             ` Ganapatrao Kulkarni
2014-11-21 21:23 ` [RFC PATCH v2 2/4] Documentation: arm64/arm: dt bindings for numa Ganapatrao Kulkarni
     [not found]   ` <1416605010-10442-3-git-send-email-ganapatrao.kulkarni-M3mlKVOIwJVv6pq1l3V1OdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2014-11-25  3:55     ` Shannon Zhao
     [not found]       ` <5473FDA8.6080201-hv44wF8Li93QT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2014-11-25  9:42         ` Hanjun Guo
     [not found]           ` <54744F14.60004-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2014-11-25 11:02             ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-11-25 13:15               ` Ganapatrao Kulkarni
2014-11-25 19:00                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-11-25 21:09                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-11-26  9:12                   ` Hanjun Guo
     [not found]                     ` <54759991.50204-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2014-12-10 10:57                       ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-12-11  9:16                         ` Hanjun Guo
     [not found]                           ` <548960F3.7070405-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2014-12-12 14:20                             ` Arnd Bergmann [this message]
2014-12-15  3:50                               ` Hanjun Guo
2014-11-30 16:38                   ` Ganapatrao Kulkarni
     [not found]                     ` <CAFpQJXU4fsCn5rW20qqL1_MYm0Np_beF5gni7uMZSLFLRvVrcQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-11-30 17:13                       ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-11-25 14:54               ` Hanjun Guo
2014-11-26  2:29               ` Shannon Zhao
     [not found]                 ` <54753AED.3050909-hv44wF8Li93QT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2014-11-26 16:51                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-11-21 21:23 ` [RFC PATCH v2 3/4] arm64:thunder: Add initial dts for Cavium's Thunder SoC in 2 Node topology Ganapatrao Kulkarni
     [not found]   ` <1416605010-10442-4-git-send-email-ganapatrao.kulkarni-M3mlKVOIwJVv6pq1l3V1OdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2014-11-24 11:59     ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-11-24 16:32       ` Roy Franz
     [not found]         ` <CAFECyb8aObzJeiL4uB+N6D83GKqJ5tgYGJJJQXRQiEqMegg3Ng-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-11-24 17:01           ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-11-25 12:38             ` Ard Biesheuvel
     [not found]               ` <CAKv+Gu-EEmj1cV-N9tAijotV9Wj9drwajkoTVnRijHLiCskywg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-11-25 12:45                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-11-24 17:01     ` Marc Zyngier
2014-11-21 21:23 ` [RFC PATCH v2 4/4] arm64:numa: adding numa support for arm64 platforms Ganapatrao Kulkarni
2014-12-06  9:36   ` Ashok Kumar
2014-12-06  9:36   ` Ashok Kumar
2014-12-06  9:36   ` Ashok Kumar
     [not found]   ` <5482ce36.c9e2420a.5d40.71c7SMTPIN_ADDED_BROKEN@mx.google.com>
     [not found]     ` <5482ce36.c9e2420a.5d40.71c7SMTPIN_ADDED_BROKEN-ATjtLOhZ0NVl57MIdRCFDg@public.gmane.org>
2014-12-06 18:50       ` Ganapatrao Kulkarni
2014-12-10 12:26         ` Ashok Kumar
2014-12-10 12:26         ` Ashok Kumar
2014-12-10 12:26         ` Ashok Kumar
     [not found]         ` <54883be3.8284440a.3154.ffffa34fSMTPIN_ADDED_BROKEN@mx.google.com>
     [not found]           ` <54883be3.8284440a.3154.ffffa34fSMTPIN_ADDED_BROKEN-ATjtLOhZ0NVl57MIdRCFDg@public.gmane.org>
2014-12-15 18:16             ` Ganapatrao Kulkarni

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