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From: Tomasz Figa <tomasz.figa@gmail.com>
To: "Chaiken, Alison" <Alison_Chaiken@mentor.com>
Cc: Grant Likely <grant.likely@secretlab.ca>,
	Wolfram Sang <w.sang@pengutronix.de>,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	Stephen Warren <swarren@wwwdotorg.org>,
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	Rob Herring <rob.herring@calxeda.com>,
	Olof Johansson <olof@lixom.net>,
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	Linus Walleij <linus.walleij@linaro.org>
Subject: Re: The future of DT binding maintainership
Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2013 22:09:09 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1925583.R0td2pS6as@flatron> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <60BA5429A0E1584BA3633194F6F993B502B21362@NA-MBX-03.mgc.mentorg.com>

Hi Alison,

On Monday 22 of July 2013 19:59:25 Chaiken, Alison wrote:
> Grant Likely wrote:
> > Another thing discussed is that we need to start validating DT schema
> > with an extension to dtc.
> Is there a schema out there in the wild that exemplifies what you mean?

Not really. The format of schemas is currently in design stage. I'm 
currently rethinking some details of what I have in my mind. Give me some 
more time and I will post an RFC to the ML with all that written down.

> > Tomasz Figa has volunteered to do this work and has support from his
> > employer
> That's great news.
> 
> > to have is that the DT schema will get checked as part of the dts
> > build
> > process so that any DT file that doesn't match the documented schema
> > will get flagged, and that the schema files will be human readable and
> > will double as documentation.
> 
> No doubt DTS files are already the best documentation available for many
> targets.    The vendor's technical reference manual describes how the
> hardware is supposed to work, but the DTS describes what actually does.
>   Any errata that the vendor issues subsequent to publication of the
> TRM must be reflected in DTS, after all.

I'm not sure about this. Device tree should describe what hardware it is, 
not how it works, unless it is really necessary.

> The schema-check idea reminds me of the W3C HTML validators:
> 
>       http://validator.w3.org/
> 
> Since device-tree source looks a bit like XML (or maybe more like JSON),
> will be the schemas be similar in spirit to DTDs, and is it helpful to
> think of the validator in this spirit?   Or will the checker be more
> like "gcc -Wall", since it will be invoked by a compiler?

My idea is to implement compile time verification in dtc, so I guess it 
will be more like the latter. Since dts is what dtc can already parse, my 
plan is to keep the schemas in spirit to dts, just modifying/extending it 
to allow specifying bindings with them, rather than static values.

Best regards,
Tomasz

  reply	other threads:[~2013-07-22 20:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <CACxGe6vtJPbbqwpH8Th5S36Hx50f39j1P4OpLb-Um9xQie6Lng@mail.gmail.com>
2013-07-20  3:46 ` The future of DT binding maintainership Grant Likely
2013-07-20 13:49   ` Tomasz Figa
2013-07-22 19:59     ` Chaiken, Alison
2013-07-22 20:09       ` Tomasz Figa [this message]
2013-07-22 21:34         ` Jon Loeliger
2013-07-22 21:57           ` Tomasz Figa
2013-07-23 15:55             ` Stephen Warren
2013-07-24 20:28               ` Grant Likely
2013-07-24 20:26           ` Grant Likely
2013-07-23 15:52       ` Stephen Warren
2013-07-24 14:11     ` Grant Likely
2013-07-25  7:47       ` David Lang
2013-07-25 17:46       ` Stephen Warren
2013-07-21 10:49   ` David Gibson
2013-07-25 20:17   ` Rob Herring

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