From: Tomasz Figa <tomasz.figa@gmail.com>
To: "Chaiken, Alison" <Alison_Chaiken@mentor.com>
Cc: Grant Likely <grant.likely@secretlab.ca>,
Wolfram Sang <w.sang@pengutronix.de>,
Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
Stephen Warren <swarren@wwwdotorg.org>,
Ian Campbell <ian.campbell@citrix.com>,
Pawel Moll <pawel.moll@arm.com>,
"devicetree@vger.kernel.org" <devicetree@vger.kernel.org>,
"devicetree-discuss@lists.ozlabs.org"
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Linus Walleij <linus.walleij@linaro.org>
Subject: Re: The future of DT binding maintainership
Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2013 22:09:09 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1925583.R0td2pS6as@flatron> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <60BA5429A0E1584BA3633194F6F993B502B21362@NA-MBX-03.mgc.mentorg.com>
Hi Alison,
On Monday 22 of July 2013 19:59:25 Chaiken, Alison wrote:
> Grant Likely wrote:
> > Another thing discussed is that we need to start validating DT schema
> > with an extension to dtc.
> Is there a schema out there in the wild that exemplifies what you mean?
Not really. The format of schemas is currently in design stage. I'm
currently rethinking some details of what I have in my mind. Give me some
more time and I will post an RFC to the ML with all that written down.
> > Tomasz Figa has volunteered to do this work and has support from his
> > employer
> That's great news.
>
> > to have is that the DT schema will get checked as part of the dts
> > build
> > process so that any DT file that doesn't match the documented schema
> > will get flagged, and that the schema files will be human readable and
> > will double as documentation.
>
> No doubt DTS files are already the best documentation available for many
> targets. The vendor's technical reference manual describes how the
> hardware is supposed to work, but the DTS describes what actually does.
> Any errata that the vendor issues subsequent to publication of the
> TRM must be reflected in DTS, after all.
I'm not sure about this. Device tree should describe what hardware it is,
not how it works, unless it is really necessary.
> The schema-check idea reminds me of the W3C HTML validators:
>
> http://validator.w3.org/
>
> Since device-tree source looks a bit like XML (or maybe more like JSON),
> will be the schemas be similar in spirit to DTDs, and is it helpful to
> think of the validator in this spirit? Or will the checker be more
> like "gcc -Wall", since it will be invoked by a compiler?
My idea is to implement compile time verification in dtc, so I guess it
will be more like the latter. Since dts is what dtc can already parse, my
plan is to keep the schemas in spirit to dts, just modifying/extending it
to allow specifying bindings with them, rather than static values.
Best regards,
Tomasz
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-07-22 20:09 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
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2013-07-20 3:46 ` The future of DT binding maintainership Grant Likely
2013-07-20 13:49 ` Tomasz Figa
2013-07-22 19:59 ` Chaiken, Alison
2013-07-22 20:09 ` Tomasz Figa [this message]
2013-07-22 21:34 ` Jon Loeliger
2013-07-22 21:57 ` Tomasz Figa
2013-07-23 15:55 ` Stephen Warren
2013-07-24 20:28 ` Grant Likely
2013-07-24 20:26 ` Grant Likely
2013-07-23 15:52 ` Stephen Warren
2013-07-24 14:11 ` Grant Likely
2013-07-25 7:47 ` David Lang
2013-07-25 17:46 ` Stephen Warren
2013-07-21 10:49 ` David Gibson
2013-07-25 20:17 ` Rob Herring
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