From: Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzk@kernel.org>
To: Kamal Dasu <kamal.dasu@broadcom.com>
Cc: Ulf Hansson <ulfh@kernel.org>,
Florian Fainelli <florian.fainelli@broadcom.com>,
Wolfram Sang <wsa+renesas@sang-engineering.com>,
Oleksij Rempel <o.rempel@pengutronix.de>,
Avri Altman <avri.altman@sandisk.com>,
Pedro Demarchi Gomes <pedrodemargomes@gmail.com>,
Erick Shepherd <erick.shepherd@ni.com>,
Adrian Hunter <adrian.hunter@intel.com>,
Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org>,
Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzk+dt@kernel.org>,
Conor Dooley <conor+dt@kernel.org>,
linux-mmc@vger.kernel.org, devicetree@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 1/2] dt-bindings: mmc: Document no-mmc-poweroff-suspend property
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2026 21:01:17 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1a9d18ce-e6dc-40e0-aa2a-e27f694e1217@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAKekbevxiN=8q60sHkRLKzEwc75PYHO7nJtMEahLF+u39g-FBw@mail.gmail.com>
On 23/07/2026 20:53, Kamal Dasu wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 23, 2026 at 3:51 AM Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzk@kernel.org> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, Jul 22, 2026 at 05:14:16PM -0400, Kamal Dasu wrote:
>>> On some platforms, firmware accesses the (e)MMC card directly during
>>> system resume from Suspend-to-DRAM, before the kernel's own resume
>>> path has run, in order to load boot code using hard wired logic that
>>> is not field updatable. This requires the card to remain powered
>>> and responsive throughout suspend: it cannot be put to sleep, sent a
>>> power-off notification, or have its supply removed.
>>>
>>> Add a no-mmc-poweroff-suspend flag property so affected boards can
>>> tell the mmc core to keep the card powered across suspend instead of
>>> sleeping or powering it off.
>>>
>>> Signed-off-by: Kamal Dasu <kamal.dasu@broadcom.com>
>>> ---
>>> Changes in v3:
>>> - Renamed from no-mmc-sleep; dropped S_A_TIMEOUT framing per Ulf.
>>>
>>> Changes in v2:
>>> - New patch, replacing v1's card-level quirk, per Ulf.
>>>
>>> .../devicetree/bindings/mmc/mmc-controller-common.yaml | 10 ++++++++++
>>> 1 file changed, 10 insertions(+)
>>>
>>> diff --git
>> a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/mmc/mmc-controller-common.yaml
>> b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/mmc/mmc-controller-common.yaml
>>> index 3d7195e9461c..5f7b3f8ef1dd 100644
>>> --- a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/mmc/mmc-controller-common.yaml
>>> +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/mmc/mmc-controller-common.yaml
>>> @@ -232,6 +232,16 @@ properties:
>>> description:
>>> All eMMC HS400 modes are not supported.
>>>
>>> + no-mmc-poweroff-suspend:
>>> + $ref: /schemas/types.yaml#/definitions/flag
>>> + description:
>>> + On this platform, firmware accesses the attached (e)MMC card
>>> + directly during system resume, before the kernel's own resume
>>> + path runs. The card must therefore stay powered throughout
>>> + suspend, and the controller must not send it a sleep or
>>> + power-off notification. The kernel re-initializes the card
>>> + after resume, since firmware may have already reset it.
>>
>> Isn't this exactly the same as keep-power-in-suspend?
>>
>>
> Not quite, though I see why it reads that way from the description
> alone.
>
> keep-power-in-suspend only takes effect through host->pm_flags, which
> gets set at runtime via sdio_set_host_pm_flags() -- an SDIO function
> driver opts in from its own suspend() callback, per suspend cycle.
> The consuming logic lives entirely in mmc_sdio_suspend()/
> mmc_sdio_resume() (drivers/mmc/core/sdio.c); pm_flags is never read
> in mmc.c, which is what this series touches.
>
> no-mmc-poweroff-suspend differs in two ways:
>
> - It's a fixed platform characteristic, not a per-driver runtime
> request. There's no SDIO-style function driver to call an opt-in
> API from for a plain (e)MMC storage card -- the requirement here
> (firmware always touches the card at resume, on this board) is
> always true, not something decided per suspend cycle.
> - The resume-side behavior differs. keep-power-in-suspend without a
> wake IRQ does nothing at resume: it assumes the card's state
> survived untouched. This flag needs the opposite -- keep power,
> but still fully re-initialize the card via mmc_init_card(), since
> firmware may have reconfigured it while the kernel was suspended.
All this is just driver stuff which I did not ask about.
The property is described pretty the same - do not power off during
suspend/resume.
Best regards,
Krzysztof
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-07-23 19:01 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-07-22 21:14 [PATCH v3 0/2] mmc: core: Keep the card powered across suspend when firmware needs it live Kamal Dasu
2026-07-22 21:14 ` [PATCH v3 1/2] dt-bindings: mmc: Document no-mmc-poweroff-suspend property Kamal Dasu
2026-07-23 7:51 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-07-23 18:53 ` Kamal Dasu
2026-07-23 19:01 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski [this message]
2026-07-23 19:24 ` Kamal Dasu
2026-07-23 19:36 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-07-23 19:50 ` Kamal Dasu
2026-07-22 21:14 ` [PATCH v3 2/2] mmc: core: Add MMC_CAP2_NO_POWEROFF_SUSPEND host capability Kamal Dasu
2026-07-22 21:24 ` sashiko-bot
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