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From: Jerome Brunet <jbrunet@baylibre.com>
To: Alex Elder <elder@riscstar.com>, Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzk@kernel.org>
Cc: sboyd@kernel.org, bmasney+clk@redhat.com,
	jbrunet+clk@baylibre.com, robh@kernel.org, krzk+dt@kernel.org,
	conor+dt@kernel.org, andersson@kernel.org,
	konradybcio@kernel.org, abelvesa@kernel.org, kees@kernel.org,
	gustavoars@kernel.org, mohd.anwar@oss.qualcomm.com,
	lorenzo.bianconi@oss.qualcomm.com, danielt@kernel.org,
	linux-clk@vger.kernel.org, devicetree@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org, linux-hardening@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Daniel Thompson <daniel@riscstar.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/3] dt-bindings: clock: introduce toshiba,tc9564-clock.yaml
Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2026 16:38:26 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1jcxtjos65.fsf@starbuckisacylon.baylibre.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <77dacc46-7294-47c8-899a-fd56b6a2af55@riscstar.com>

On ven. 09 oct. 2026 at 09:23, Alex Elder <elder@riscstar.com> wrote:

> On 10/9/26 8:56 AM, Krzysztof Kozlowski wrote:
>> On 09/10/2026 15:44, Alex Elder wrote:
>>> On 10/9/26 4:31 AM, Krzysztof Kozlowski wrote:
>>>> On Mon, Oct 05, 2026 at 06:09:24PM -0500, Alex Elder wrote:
>>>>> Define the binding for the clock controller functionality present in
>>>>> the Toshiba TC9564 SoC.
>>>>>
>>>>> Co-developed-by: Daniel Thompson <daniel@riscstar.com>
>>>>> Signed-off-by: Daniel Thompson <daniel@riscstar.com>
>>>>> Signed-off-by: Alex Elder <elder@riscstar.com>
>
> . . .
>
>>>>> +properties:
>>>>> +  compatible:
>>>>> +    const: toshiba,tc9564-clock
>>>>> +
>>>>> +  toshiba,config-syscon:
>>>>> +    $ref: /schemas/types.yaml#/definitions/phandle
>>>>> +    description:
>>>>> +      Phandle for the configuration space system controller.
>>>>
>>>> I do not see my previous comment addressed - you have no resources here,
>>>> so this belongs to the parent. You responded something about pci-ep, but
>>>> the parent is not pci-ep. Open your code:
>>>> https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20260918165234.687224-5-elder@riscstar.com/
>>>>
>>>> I clearly see code like:
>>>>     syscon {
>>>>       clock@ {
>>>>       };
>>>>     };
>>>>
>>>> so I do not understand what pci-ep has anything to do here.
>>>
>>> What I have now (about to send) looks like this:
>>>
>>>       syscon@0 {
>>>           compatible = "syscon", "simple-mfd";
>>>           reg = <0x0 0x2000>;
>>>
>>>           clock {
>>>               compatible = "toshiba,tc9564-clock";
>>>               #clock-cells = <1>;
>>>           };
>>>       };
>>>
>>> A reset node will also go inside the syscon, so there is another
>>> function for that MFD.
>>>
>>> The regmap belongs to the parent, and is looked up this way:
>>>
>>>       regmap = syscon_node_to_regmap(dev_of_node(dev->parent));
>> 
>> That's driver code, so irrelevant. So how does this solve my comment
>> from v1?
>
> I'm trying Krzysztof.
>
> The clock controller uses two registers, 0x1004 and 0x100c,
> to manage whether a set of clock signals are enabled or not.
> (The reset controller uses two adjacent registers, 0x1008
> and 0x1010, to manage whether a set of reset signals are
> asserted or not.)
>
> You said "no resources except a small address space" and I
> guess it's not clear to me what size is "big enough" to
> warrant representing something as a separate device.
>
> *One* of the managed clocks is a 25 MHz clock, exposed
> through a pin on the SoC.  That one clock signal is
> therefore usable by the platform (although on the RB3gen2
> it's not used).
>
> Rather than expose the register addresses in the clock
> node, a syscon is defined, covering 8 KB, and the actual
> offsets used are just defined in the clock and reset
> driver source code.
>
> If that's not the right thing to do, please say that.
>
>>>> What's more, I still do not see any usage of these clocks outside. And I
>>>> still did not receive actual answers (or I missed them) how these clocks
>>>> are routed OUTSIDE of the connector. You said for example:
>>>> "Ultimately the TC9564 SoC has a single 25 MHz input clock,"
> . . .
>
>>> The single exposed clock *might* justify presenting the
>>> clock controller device in devicetree.  There are also
>>> resets exposed externally via GPIOs, and these control
>>> external entities (PHYs).
>> 
>> I cannot find any of these exposed. Please point me to DTS code showing
>> this.
>
> It is not used by this platform, but is available for other
> platforms to use.  Its name is "REFCLKO" and is exposed on
> ball C17 of the SoC, if a platform designer decided to use it.
>
> I only mention its existence as a reason to justify defining
> the clock as a separate device, but I realize you are arguing
> that I should do it somehow differently.
>
> 					-Alex

While on the topic of description, I'm little bit concerned that this
controller does not any input ? Does it have an on-board oscillator
somehow ?

None of the clocks described in your driver take a parent from what I
can see. It is as if the clocks of this device are generated out of thin
air. Is it really how this works ?

>
>> 
>> Best regards,
>> Krzysztof
>

-- 
Jerome

  reply	other threads:[~2026-10-09 14:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-10-05 23:09 [PATCH v2 0/3] clk: introduce TC9564 clock support Alex Elder
2026-10-05 23:09 ` [PATCH v2 1/3] dt-bindings: clock: introduce toshiba,tc9564-clock.yaml Alex Elder
2026-10-09  9:31   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-10-09 13:44     ` Alex Elder
2026-10-09 13:56       ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-10-09 14:23         ` Alex Elder
2026-10-09 14:38           ` Jerome Brunet [this message]
2026-10-09 15:27             ` Alex Elder
2026-10-09 14:46           ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-10-09 15:09             ` Alex Elder
2026-10-05 23:09 ` [PATCH v2 2/3] clk: toshiba: introduce a TC9564 SoC clock driver Alex Elder
2026-10-09 17:42   ` Brian Masney
2026-10-05 23:09 ` [PATCH v2 3/3] arm64: dts: qcom: qcs6490-rb3gen2: add the clock controller Alex Elder
2026-10-06  0:30   ` Alex Elder

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