From: David Gibson <david-xT8FGy+AXnRB3Ne2BGzF6laj5H9X9Tb+@public.gmane.org>
To: Jon Smirl <jonsmirl-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Benjamin Herrenschmidt
<benh-XVmvHMARGAS8U2dJNN8I7kB+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org>,
devicetree-discuss-mnsaURCQ41sdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org,
linuxppc-dev
<linuxppc-dev-mnsaURCQ41sdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: Board level compatibility matching
Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 14:25:05 +1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080801042505.GK5008@yookeroo.seuss> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9e4733910807312100j6a8d1974k34054c2d69f417f4-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
On Fri, Aug 01, 2008 at 12:00:01AM -0400, Jon Smirl wrote:
> On 7/31/08, David Gibson <david-xT8FGy+AXnRB3Ne2BGzF6laj5H9X9Tb+@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> > On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 11:06:20PM -0400, Jon Smirl wrote:
> > > On 7/31/08, David Gibson <david-xT8FGy+AXnRB3Ne2BGzF6laj5H9X9Tb+@public.gmane.org> wrote:
[snip]
> > > That is what I'm doing now. But it requires every board to add a file
> > > to arch/powerpc/platforms. Can we have some common code to make the
> > > fabric device? Can it be an OF device instead of a platform one? An OF
> > > device could be compatible with boardname-fabric, generic-fabric. That
> > > allows a stub fabric driver to always bind.
> >
> >
> > There are several ways to do this, and which is the most sensible
> > depends on the specific design, and whether / how many boards the
> > design is shared amongst.
> >
> > In some cases it's suitable to have a "fake" device node for the sound
> > wiring, to which a fabric driver can bind. I think I've argued
> > against this approach in the past, but I've since been convinced that
> > it is a reasonable approach for some situations. There's precedent,
> > too, a number of Apple device trees do this.
> >
> > In other cases it may be possible to deduce the correct fabric driver
> > from the interconnections of individual sound components.
> >
> > In yet others, we need board-specific platform code to instantiate the
> > fabric driver. In some cases that's simply the most straightforward
> > way to do things. In others it's not ideal, but we can use it as a
> > fallback technique because deployed device trees simply don't have
> > sufficient information in other places to use another approach.
> >
> > There doesn't have to be One True Method for doing this.
>
> We're running into a need for the true method. With ALSA you need to
> have the codec driver, i2s/ac97 driver and the fabric driver all load
> and say here I am before ALSA can finish binding. ALSA won't complete
> initializing on boards without all three.
>
> So what do you do on board that doesn't need a fabric driver? That's
> why you want the fake device with the compatible string =
> board-fabric, noop-fabric. Now you know for sure one of those two
> drivers will bind.
No... that would be exactly my example of a case where instantiating
the fabric driver from the platform code isn't ideal, but is a usable
fallback option.
> Why does the fake fabric device need to be in the device tree? Can't
> we just dynamically create it as part of the boot process?
Um.. yes.. that would be exactly what instatiating it from the
platform code does.
--
David Gibson | I'll have my music baroque, and my code
david AT gibson.dropbear.id.au | minimalist, thank you. NOT _the_ _other_
| _way_ _around_!
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Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-07-31 20:19 Board level compatibility matching Grant Likely
2008-07-31 20:39 ` Chris Friesen
[not found] ` <fa686aa40807311319k44d270b0t4fa9cb0e6523339-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2008-07-31 20:49 ` Jon Smirl
2008-07-31 20:52 ` Grant Likely
[not found] ` <20080731205251.GB29834-s3s/WqlpOiPyB63q8FvJNQ@public.gmane.org>
2008-07-31 20:58 ` Jon Smirl
[not found] ` <9e4733910807311358k54b5c088l1023d354fd0ad28e-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2008-08-01 2:47 ` David Gibson
[not found] ` <20080801024729.GA5008-787xzQ0H9iRg7VrjXcPTGA@public.gmane.org>
2008-08-01 3:06 ` Jon Smirl
[not found] ` <9e4733910807312006l8e83d27qe1b5ca5f50b89e39-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2008-08-01 3:30 ` David Gibson
[not found] ` <20080801033009.GG5008-787xzQ0H9iRg7VrjXcPTGA@public.gmane.org>
2008-08-01 4:00 ` Jon Smirl
[not found] ` <9e4733910807312100j6a8d1974k34054c2d69f417f4-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2008-08-01 4:25 ` David Gibson [this message]
2008-08-01 4:37 ` Jon Smirl
2008-08-01 6:22 ` David Gibson
2008-07-31 20:59 ` Scott Wood
[not found] ` <20080731205906.GB17718-VKaLA/mbEU932VTgPCOETVjVikpgYyvb5NbjCUgZEJk@public.gmane.org>
2008-07-31 21:09 ` Grant Likely
2008-08-01 2:54 ` David Gibson
2008-08-01 3:25 ` Grant Likely
2008-08-01 3:38 ` David Gibson
2008-08-01 4:25 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-08-01 12:06 ` Josh Boyer
[not found] ` <20080801080632.35edcb04-jnIq6iUNB1CO8iYQgJmm/0EOCMrvLtNR@public.gmane.org>
2008-08-01 12:28 ` Josh Boyer
2008-08-01 14:30 ` Grant Likely
2008-08-01 22:48 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-08-02 0:07 ` Josh Boyer
2008-08-01 14:27 ` Grant Likely
2008-08-01 15:11 ` Josh Boyer
2008-08-01 16:01 ` M. Warner Losh
2008-08-01 16:24 ` Grant Likely
2008-08-01 22:54 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
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