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From: Jeremy Kerr <jeremy.kerr-Z7WLFzj8eWMS+FvcfC7Uqw@public.gmane.org>
To: Nicolas Pitre <nico-vtqb6HGKxmzR7s880joybQ@public.gmane.org>
Cc: nicolas.pitre-Z7WLFzj8eWMS+FvcfC7Uqw@public.gmane.org,
	devicetree-discuss-uLR06cmDAlY/bJ5BZ2RsiQ@public.gmane.org,
	linux-arm-kernel-IAPFreCvJWM7uuMidbF8XUB+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: Boot interface for device trees on ARM
Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 13:24:43 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <201005181324.45701.jeremy.kerr@canonical.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.2.00.1005172341200.12758-QuJgVwGFrdf/9pzu0YdTqQ@public.gmane.org>

Hi Nicolas,

> I think that, for the moment, it is best if the bootloader on already 
> existing subarchitectures where DT is introduced still preserve the 
> already existing ability to boot using ATAGs.  This allows for the 
> testing and validation of the DT concept against the legacy ATAG method 
> more easily.

Just to clarify - by "still preserve the existing ability to use ATAGs" you 
mean only for non-DT boot, right? This proposal still does not require 
ATAG_DEVTREE?

> Why one DT machine ID per subarchitecture?  Simply because a significant
> part of the DT handling code will have to be subarchitecture specific
> anyway.  The timer hardware, the GPIO configuration and muxing, SOC
> specific platform data handling, power management config, and many other
> things are simply too different from one SOC family to another and
> trying to have a single global DT support code to rule them all is
> insane.

The code for DT boot will be still subarch-specific, but I don't think we need 
IDs for that. There is enough information in the device tree to select the 
subarch-specific code to use for early init, without needing to parameterise 
every element of the machine. The machine-level "compatible" property allows 
us to do this.

Therefore, I don't think we need the machine ID at all: once the DT is 
available, we can use that for any machine-specific stuff. Even though we're 
not *configuring* it from the device tree, we can *select* it from there 
instead.

Cheers,


Jeremy

  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-05-18  5:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-05-18  2:54 Boot interface for device trees on ARM Jeremy Kerr
2010-05-18  4:34 ` Nicolas Pitre
     [not found]   ` <alpine.LFD.2.00.1005172341200.12758-QuJgVwGFrdf/9pzu0YdTqQ@public.gmane.org>
2010-05-18  5:24     ` Jeremy Kerr [this message]
     [not found]       ` <201005181324.45701.jeremy.kerr-Z7WLFzj8eWMS+FvcfC7Uqw@public.gmane.org>
2010-05-18  8:49         ` David Gibson
2010-05-18 12:24           ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-05-18 14:06             ` Jason McMullan
     [not found]               ` <AANLkTikg4rQdnbFxBOUkGc_0DrKqRkp9raZ8Ck5xkLG4-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2010-05-19  0:21                 ` David Gibson
2010-05-19  7:25             ` Mitch Bradley
     [not found]             ` <alpine.LFD.2.00.1005180802010.12758-QuJgVwGFrdf/9pzu0YdTqQ@public.gmane.org>
2010-05-19  0:28               ` David Gibson
2010-05-19  1:28                 ` Nicolas Pitre
     [not found]                   ` <alpine.LFD.2.00.1005182109180.12758-QuJgVwGFrdf/9pzu0YdTqQ@public.gmane.org>
2010-05-19  6:50                     ` David Gibson
2010-05-19 14:45                       ` Grant Likely
2010-05-19  1:41                 ` Jamie Lokier
     [not found]                   ` <20100519014118.GD2318-yetKDKU6eevNLxjTenLetw@public.gmane.org>
2010-05-19  7:12                     ` David Gibson
2010-05-19 14:21                     ` Grant Likely
2010-05-19  8:50               ` Jeremy Kerr
2010-05-18 11:57         ` Nicolas Pitre
     [not found]           ` <alpine.LFD.2.00.1005180742500.12758-QuJgVwGFrdf/9pzu0YdTqQ@public.gmane.org>
2010-05-19 12:13             ` Grant Likely
     [not found]               ` <AANLkTinsOSI_TIc7Jyy4QFuFaS2d-fi0y3LMuITLyG3N-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2010-05-19 16:45                 ` Jamie Lokier
     [not found]                   ` <20100519164534.GE1693-yetKDKU6eevNLxjTenLetw@public.gmane.org>
2010-05-19 17:10                     ` Grant Likely
2010-05-19 17:32                       ` M. Warner Losh
2010-05-19 11:57     ` Grant Likely
2010-05-19 12:08       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
     [not found]       ` <AANLkTilJl9_NHiT1LITG7UbA9S7OYsnGMcDAsFEEx5Ob-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2010-05-19 17:52         ` Nicolas Pitre
     [not found]           ` <alpine.LFD.2.00.1005191055180.12758-QuJgVwGFrdf/9pzu0YdTqQ@public.gmane.org>
2010-05-19 20:08             ` Jamie Lokier
     [not found]               ` <20100519200819.GF1693-yetKDKU6eevNLxjTenLetw@public.gmane.org>
2010-05-19 20:22                 ` Nicolas Pitre
     [not found]                   ` <alpine.LFD.2.00.1005191614580.12758-QuJgVwGFrdf/9pzu0YdTqQ@public.gmane.org>
2010-05-21 16:24                     ` John Rigby
2010-05-21 16:27                       ` Jamie Bennett
     [not found]                       ` <AANLkTil3vDAN4QIJJImk8MnQklisqFJq_RBc7c9VEZxl-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2010-05-21 19:59                         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-06-03 21:12                         ` Grant Likely
2010-06-04 20:01             ` Grant Likely
     [not found]               ` <AANLkTilhqg270l-_m9raalqAPPRhvLJD9omHe8ysgLjg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2010-06-04 20:33                 ` John Rigby
2010-06-04 20:37                   ` Jon Loeliger
     [not found]                     ` <E1OKdeH-00053a-U2-CYoMK+44s/E@public.gmane.org>
2010-06-04 21:07                       ` Grant Likely
2010-06-05  1:33                 ` Jeremy Kerr
     [not found]                   ` <201006050933.06714.jeremy.kerr-Z7WLFzj8eWMS+FvcfC7Uqw@public.gmane.org>
2010-06-05  2:29                     ` Nicolas Pitre
     [not found]                       ` <alpine.LFD.2.00.1006042212400.30664-QuJgVwGFrdf/9pzu0YdTqQ@public.gmane.org>
2010-06-05  5:59                         ` Grant Likely
2010-06-09  4:26                         ` Jeremy Kerr
     [not found]                           ` <201006091226.15438.jeremy.kerr-Z7WLFzj8eWMS+FvcfC7Uqw@public.gmane.org>
2010-06-09 13:09                             ` Nicolas Pitre
     [not found] ` <201005181054.32325.jeremy.kerr-Z7WLFzj8eWMS+FvcfC7Uqw@public.gmane.org>
2010-05-19 11:45   ` Grant Likely

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