From: Jeremy Kerr <jeremy.kerr-Z7WLFzj8eWMS+FvcfC7Uqw@public.gmane.org>
To: Nicolas Pitre <nico-vtqb6HGKxmzR7s880joybQ@public.gmane.org>
Cc: nicolas.pitre-Z7WLFzj8eWMS+FvcfC7Uqw@public.gmane.org,
devicetree-discuss-uLR06cmDAlY/bJ5BZ2RsiQ@public.gmane.org,
linux-arm-kernel-IAPFreCvJWM7uuMidbF8XUB+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: Boot interface for device trees on ARM
Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 13:24:43 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <201005181324.45701.jeremy.kerr@canonical.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.2.00.1005172341200.12758-QuJgVwGFrdf/9pzu0YdTqQ@public.gmane.org>
Hi Nicolas,
> I think that, for the moment, it is best if the bootloader on already
> existing subarchitectures where DT is introduced still preserve the
> already existing ability to boot using ATAGs. This allows for the
> testing and validation of the DT concept against the legacy ATAG method
> more easily.
Just to clarify - by "still preserve the existing ability to use ATAGs" you
mean only for non-DT boot, right? This proposal still does not require
ATAG_DEVTREE?
> Why one DT machine ID per subarchitecture? Simply because a significant
> part of the DT handling code will have to be subarchitecture specific
> anyway. The timer hardware, the GPIO configuration and muxing, SOC
> specific platform data handling, power management config, and many other
> things are simply too different from one SOC family to another and
> trying to have a single global DT support code to rule them all is
> insane.
The code for DT boot will be still subarch-specific, but I don't think we need
IDs for that. There is enough information in the device tree to select the
subarch-specific code to use for early init, without needing to parameterise
every element of the machine. The machine-level "compatible" property allows
us to do this.
Therefore, I don't think we need the machine ID at all: once the DT is
available, we can use that for any machine-specific stuff. Even though we're
not *configuring* it from the device tree, we can *select* it from there
instead.
Cheers,
Jeremy
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Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-05-18 2:54 Boot interface for device trees on ARM Jeremy Kerr
2010-05-18 4:34 ` Nicolas Pitre
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2010-05-18 5:24 ` Jeremy Kerr [this message]
[not found] ` <201005181324.45701.jeremy.kerr-Z7WLFzj8eWMS+FvcfC7Uqw@public.gmane.org>
2010-05-18 8:49 ` David Gibson
2010-05-18 12:24 ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-05-18 14:06 ` Jason McMullan
[not found] ` <AANLkTikg4rQdnbFxBOUkGc_0DrKqRkp9raZ8Ck5xkLG4-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2010-05-19 0:21 ` David Gibson
2010-05-19 7:25 ` Mitch Bradley
[not found] ` <alpine.LFD.2.00.1005180802010.12758-QuJgVwGFrdf/9pzu0YdTqQ@public.gmane.org>
2010-05-19 0:28 ` David Gibson
2010-05-19 1:28 ` Nicolas Pitre
[not found] ` <alpine.LFD.2.00.1005182109180.12758-QuJgVwGFrdf/9pzu0YdTqQ@public.gmane.org>
2010-05-19 6:50 ` David Gibson
2010-05-19 14:45 ` Grant Likely
2010-05-19 1:41 ` Jamie Lokier
[not found] ` <20100519014118.GD2318-yetKDKU6eevNLxjTenLetw@public.gmane.org>
2010-05-19 7:12 ` David Gibson
2010-05-19 14:21 ` Grant Likely
2010-05-19 8:50 ` Jeremy Kerr
2010-05-18 11:57 ` Nicolas Pitre
[not found] ` <alpine.LFD.2.00.1005180742500.12758-QuJgVwGFrdf/9pzu0YdTqQ@public.gmane.org>
2010-05-19 12:13 ` Grant Likely
[not found] ` <AANLkTinsOSI_TIc7Jyy4QFuFaS2d-fi0y3LMuITLyG3N-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2010-05-19 16:45 ` Jamie Lokier
[not found] ` <20100519164534.GE1693-yetKDKU6eevNLxjTenLetw@public.gmane.org>
2010-05-19 17:10 ` Grant Likely
2010-05-19 17:32 ` M. Warner Losh
2010-05-19 11:57 ` Grant Likely
2010-05-19 12:08 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
[not found] ` <AANLkTilJl9_NHiT1LITG7UbA9S7OYsnGMcDAsFEEx5Ob-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2010-05-19 17:52 ` Nicolas Pitre
[not found] ` <alpine.LFD.2.00.1005191055180.12758-QuJgVwGFrdf/9pzu0YdTqQ@public.gmane.org>
2010-05-19 20:08 ` Jamie Lokier
[not found] ` <20100519200819.GF1693-yetKDKU6eevNLxjTenLetw@public.gmane.org>
2010-05-19 20:22 ` Nicolas Pitre
[not found] ` <alpine.LFD.2.00.1005191614580.12758-QuJgVwGFrdf/9pzu0YdTqQ@public.gmane.org>
2010-05-21 16:24 ` John Rigby
2010-05-21 16:27 ` Jamie Bennett
[not found] ` <AANLkTil3vDAN4QIJJImk8MnQklisqFJq_RBc7c9VEZxl-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2010-05-21 19:59 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-06-03 21:12 ` Grant Likely
2010-06-04 20:01 ` Grant Likely
[not found] ` <AANLkTilhqg270l-_m9raalqAPPRhvLJD9omHe8ysgLjg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2010-06-04 20:33 ` John Rigby
2010-06-04 20:37 ` Jon Loeliger
[not found] ` <E1OKdeH-00053a-U2-CYoMK+44s/E@public.gmane.org>
2010-06-04 21:07 ` Grant Likely
2010-06-05 1:33 ` Jeremy Kerr
[not found] ` <201006050933.06714.jeremy.kerr-Z7WLFzj8eWMS+FvcfC7Uqw@public.gmane.org>
2010-06-05 2:29 ` Nicolas Pitre
[not found] ` <alpine.LFD.2.00.1006042212400.30664-QuJgVwGFrdf/9pzu0YdTqQ@public.gmane.org>
2010-06-05 5:59 ` Grant Likely
2010-06-09 4:26 ` Jeremy Kerr
[not found] ` <201006091226.15438.jeremy.kerr-Z7WLFzj8eWMS+FvcfC7Uqw@public.gmane.org>
2010-06-09 13:09 ` Nicolas Pitre
[not found] ` <201005181054.32325.jeremy.kerr-Z7WLFzj8eWMS+FvcfC7Uqw@public.gmane.org>
2010-05-19 11:45 ` Grant Likely
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