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From: Richard Cochran <richardcochran-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
To: Christoph Lameter <cl-vYTEC60ixJUAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
Cc: linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	devicetree-discuss-uLR06cmDAlY/bJ5BZ2RsiQ@public.gmane.org,
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	linux-arm-kernel-IAPFreCvJWM7uuMidbF8XUB+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org,
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	netdev-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd-r2nGTMty4D4@public.gmane.org>,
	David Miller <davem-fT/PcQaiUtIeIZ0/mPfg9Q@public.gmane.org>,
	John Stultz <johnstul-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	Krzysztof Halasa <khc-9GfyWEdoJtJmR6Xm/wNWPw@public.gmane.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>,
	Rodolfo Giometti <giometti-k2GhghHVRtY@public.gmane.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx-hfZtesqFncYOwBW4kG4KsQ@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 6/8] ptp: Added a clock that uses the eTSEC found on the MPC85xx.
Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 10:49:12 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100924084912.GA15286@riccoc20.at.omicron.at> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.00.1009231348150.2962-sBS69tsa9Uj/9pzu0YdTqQ@public.gmane.org>

On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 02:17:36PM -0500, Christoph Lameter wrote:
> On Thu, 23 Sep 2010, Richard Cochran wrote:
> > +  These properties set the operational parameters for the PTP
> > +  clock. You must choose these carefully for the clock to work right.
> > +  Here is how to figure good values:
> > +
> > +  TimerOsc     = system clock               MHz
> > +  tclk_period  = desired clock period       nanoseconds
> > +  NominalFreq  = 1000 / tclk_period         MHz
> > +  FreqDivRatio = TimerOsc / NominalFreq     (must be greater that 1.0)
> > +  tmr_add      = ceil(2^32 / FreqDivRatio)
> > +  OutputClock  = NominalFreq / tmr_prsc     MHz
> > +  PulseWidth   = 1 / OutputClock            microseconds
> > +  FiperFreq1   = desired frequency in Hz
> > +  FiperDiv1    = 1000000 * OutputClock / FiperFreq1
> > +  tmr_fiper1   = tmr_prsc * tclk_period * FiperDiv1 - tclk_period
> > +  max_adj      = 1000000000 * (FreqDivRatio - 1.0) - 1
> 
> Great stuff for clock synchronization...
> 
> > +  The calculation for tmr_fiper2 is the same as for tmr_fiper1. The
> > +  driver expects that tmr_fiper1 will be correctly set to produce a 1
> > +  Pulse Per Second (PPS) signal, since this will be offered to the PPS
> > +  subsystem to synchronize the Linux clock.
> 
> Argh. And conceptually completely screwed up. Why go through the PPS
> subsystem if you can directly tune the system clock based on a number of
> the cool periodic clock features that you have above? See how the other
> clocks do that easily? Look into drivers/clocksource. Add it there.
> 
> Please do not introduce useless additional layers for clock sync. Load
> these ptp clocks like the other regular clock modules and make them sync
> system time like any other clock.
> 
> Really guys: I want a PTP solution! Now! And not some idiotic additional
> kernel layers that just pass bits around because its so much fun and
> screws up clock accurary in due to the latency noise introduced while
> having so much fun with the bits.

(Sorry if this message comes twice. Mutt/Gmail flaked out again.)

I think you misunderstood this particular patch. The device tree
parameters are really just internal driver stuff. When you use the
eTSEC, you must make some design choices at the same time as you plan
your board. The proper values for some of the eTSEC registers are
based on these design choices. Since the Freescale documentation is a
bit thin on this, I added a few notes to help my fellow board
designers.

Because these values are closely related to the board itself, I think
that it is nicer to configure them via the device tree than using
either CONFIG_ variables or platform data.

Richard

  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-09-24  8:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-09-23 17:30 [PATCH v6 0/8] ptp: IEEE 1588 hardware clock support Richard Cochran
2010-09-23 17:31 ` [PATCH 1/8] posix clocks: introduce a syscall for clock tuning Richard Cochran
     [not found]   ` <b94ef1cd9c04ef3ad5964408bd0af7251add78de.1285261534.git.richard.cochran-3mrvs1K0uXizZXS1Dc/lvw@public.gmane.org>
2010-09-23 19:48     ` john stultz
     [not found]       ` <1285271331.2587.56.camel-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2010-09-24  7:29         ` Richard Cochran
     [not found]           ` <20100924072946.GA5043-7KxsofuKt4IfAd9E5cN8NEzG7cXyKsk/@public.gmane.org>
2010-09-24 17:55             ` john stultz
2010-09-23 22:03     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-09-23 22:12       ` Thomas Gleixner
     [not found]         ` <alpine.LFD.2.00.1009240008390.2416-bi+AKbBUZKagILUCTcTcHdKyNwTtLsGr@public.gmane.org>
2010-09-24  1:20           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-09-24  7:55       ` Richard Cochran
     [not found]         ` <20100924075534.GB5043-7KxsofuKt4IfAd9E5cN8NEzG7cXyKsk/@public.gmane.org>
2010-09-24 22:12           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-09-23 17:31 ` [PATCH 2/8] posix clocks: dynamic clock ids Richard Cochran
2010-09-23 17:31 ` [PATCH 3/8] posix clocks: introduce a sysfs presence Richard Cochran
     [not found] ` <cover.1285261533.git.richard.cochran-3mrvs1K0uXizZXS1Dc/lvw@public.gmane.org>
2010-09-23 17:32   ` [PATCH 4/8] ptp: Added a brand new class driver for ptp clocks Richard Cochran
2010-09-23 17:32 ` [PATCH 5/8] ptp: Added a simulated PTP hardware clock Richard Cochran
2010-09-23 17:33 ` [PATCH 6/8] ptp: Added a clock that uses the eTSEC found on the MPC85xx Richard Cochran
     [not found]   ` <57b64051c816dc9cb856bbb9f38fc901c9d3d651.1285261535.git.richard.cochran-3mrvs1K0uXizZXS1Dc/lvw@public.gmane.org>
2010-09-23 19:17     ` Christoph Lameter
     [not found]       ` <alpine.DEB.2.00.1009231348150.2962-sBS69tsa9Uj/9pzu0YdTqQ@public.gmane.org>
2010-09-23 20:43         ` Alan Cox
     [not found]           ` <20100923214359.3f287b11-qBU/x9rampVanCEyBjwyrvXRex20P6io@public.gmane.org>
2010-09-23 20:32             ` Christoph Lameter
2010-09-23 21:26           ` Christian Riesch
2010-09-24 11:52             ` Alan Cox
2010-09-24  8:49         ` Richard Cochran [this message]
2010-09-23 17:33 ` [PATCH 7/8] ptp: Added a clock driver for the IXP46x Richard Cochran
2010-09-23 17:34 ` [PATCH 8/8] ptp: Added a clock driver for the National Semiconductor PHYTER Richard Cochran
2010-09-23 17:53 ` [PATCH v6 0/8] ptp: IEEE 1588 hardware clock support Christoph Lameter
2010-09-23 18:21   ` Jacob Keller
2010-09-23 18:36     ` Christoph Lameter
     [not found]   ` <alpine.DEB.2.00.1009231238170.2962-sBS69tsa9Uj/9pzu0YdTqQ@public.gmane.org>
2010-09-23 18:59     ` john stultz
     [not found]       ` <1285268380.2587.11.camel-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2010-09-23 19:15         ` Christoph Lameter
2010-09-23 20:28           ` john stultz
2010-09-23 20:49             ` Christoph Lameter
     [not found]               ` <alpine.DEB.2.00.1009231533040.7522-sBS69tsa9Uj/9pzu0YdTqQ@public.gmane.org>
2010-09-23 21:34                 ` Alan Cox
2010-09-23 21:34                   ` Christian Riesch
     [not found]                     ` <4C9BC7CE.8020400-U4+xqT1Vg0VeoWH0uzbU5w@public.gmane.org>
2010-09-27 15:37                       ` Christoph Lameter
2010-09-30  3:50                         ` Christian Riesch
2010-10-02  1:44                         ` M. Warner Losh
2010-09-23 21:42                 ` john stultz
     [not found]                   ` <1285278136.2587.154.camel-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2010-09-27 15:52                     ` Christoph Lameter
2010-09-27 16:14                       ` M. Warner Losh
     [not found]                         ` <20100927.101423.702773873740300798.imp-uzTCJ5RojNnQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2010-09-28  6:34                           ` Richard Cochran
2010-09-24  8:33     ` Richard Cochran
2010-09-23 19:38 ` john stultz
     [not found]   ` <1285270733.2587.46.camel-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2010-09-24 13:50     ` Richard Cochran
     [not found]       ` <20100924135001.GB3113-7KxsofuKt4IfAd9E5cN8NEzG7cXyKsk/@public.gmane.org>
2010-09-24 14:57         ` Alan Cox
2010-09-23 20:36 ` Alan Cox
2010-09-23 20:49   ` john stultz
     [not found]     ` <1285274952.2587.113.camel-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2010-09-23 21:30       ` Alan Cox
2010-09-23 22:03         ` john stultz
     [not found]   ` <20100923213654.0c64b047-qBU/x9rampVanCEyBjwyrvXRex20P6io@public.gmane.org>
2010-09-24 13:14     ` Richard Cochran
     [not found]       ` <20100924131407.GA3113-7KxsofuKt4IfAd9E5cN8NEzG7cXyKsk/@public.gmane.org>
2010-09-24 14:02         ` Alan Cox
2010-09-24 14:07           ` Alan Cox
2010-09-27 15:56           ` Christoph Lameter
2010-09-27 17:05             ` Alan Cox
2010-09-28  6:47               ` Richard Cochran

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