From: David Gibson <david-xT8FGy+AXnRB3Ne2BGzF6laj5H9X9Tb+@public.gmane.org>
To: Stephen Neuendorffer
<stephen.neuendorffer-gjFFaj9aHVfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
Cc: devicetree-discuss-uLR06cmDAlY/bJ5BZ2RsiQ@public.gmane.org,
John Bonesio <bones-RkXMcIGFT/TR7s880joybQ@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: Proposal: new device-tree syntax and semantics for extendinginformation from included dts files
Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2010 18:05:46 +1100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20101016070546.GF5036@yookeroo> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <b04d95cc-c35b-4597-8fbe-f7c48f23ef92-+Ck8Kgl/v09DUMyIFHz4objjLBE8jN/0@public.gmane.org>
On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 09:10:55AM -0700, Stephen Neuendorffer wrote:
[snip]
> > > Why exactly? Instead of being a stack of overlays, it seems to me
> like
> > > a stack of trees with operators..
> > > The point is exactly that operators make most sense at the stack of
> > > trees level and not
> > > at the individual node level.
> >
> > I don't think I'm understanding what you're trying to say. How do you
> differentiate "stack of
> > overlays" and "stack of trees"?
> >
> > The reason I don't like this approach is that in many cases many
> > things will need to be changed by a single overlay, and not all those
> > changes will be the same operation. For example, an overlay for a
> > board could add a bunch of nodes for i2c devices, and at the same time
> > remove an unused spi bus device.
>
> So why not have two trees stacked to do the job?
>
> > The "stack of overlays" conceptual model that we've settled on uses
> > the concept that subsequent top level trees stack on top of the
> > preceding tree and can mask out or add/change nodes and properties.
> > The trees are merged together before going on to the next top level
> > tree.
>
> I guess I'm stuck on 'overlay' to me implies '/extend/', so I associate
> the operations being on trees, not individual nodes.
> (Although, there's still the tough part about /remove-node/ vs
> /remove-property/,
> which might meant that the operations have to be in the trees to
> distinguish that).
I'm with Steve here, even though I still don't follow his reasoning
from here to the syntax he proposed earlier. But I think we've
kind of moved past that option now, anyway.
There can be multiple overlays / top-level items per-file so there's
no reason the example above can't be done as multiple overlays with
different operaitons.
--
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2010-10-13 23:17 ` Proposal: new device-tree syntax and semantics for extending information from included dts files Grant Likely
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2010-10-13 23:41 ` Proposal: new device-tree syntax and semantics for extendinginformation " Stephen Neuendorffer
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2010-10-14 0:45 ` David Gibson
2010-10-14 1:46 ` Grant Likely
[not found] ` <20101014014657.GF15286-MrY2KI0G/OVr83L8+7iqerDks+cytr/Z@public.gmane.org>
2010-10-14 3:31 ` David Gibson
2010-10-14 16:38 ` Stephen Neuendorffer
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2010-10-15 15:18 ` Grant Likely
[not found] ` <20101015151840.GB32705-MrY2KI0G/OVr83L8+7iqerDks+cytr/Z@public.gmane.org>
2010-10-15 16:10 ` Stephen Neuendorffer
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2010-10-15 19:32 ` Grant Likely
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2010-10-15 19:48 ` Stephen Neuendorffer
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2010-10-15 19:56 ` Grant Likely
[not found] ` <AANLkTikWfMXEbdwFY6FNoMwuD6fC74Kohtr3QRJqSrM0-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2010-10-15 19:59 ` Stephen Neuendorffer
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2010-10-15 20:11 ` Grant Likely
[not found] ` <AANLkTikzyDFiQZzPmeos6pf_DS33RvkfER+Mz0jceSJy-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2010-10-15 20:20 ` Stephen Neuendorffer
[not found] ` <4da0557a-d204-4e38-8a82-b0996a9a5af1-RaUQJvECHitCYczPSvLbDrjjLBE8jN/0@public.gmane.org>
2010-10-15 23:58 ` Grant Likely
[not found] ` <AANLkTinzf3vhs_OUUeiVYOFbOPLFHA+dei810H2gyDGS-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2010-10-16 7:10 ` David Gibson
2010-10-15 20:35 ` John Bonesio
2010-10-15 21:25 ` John Bonesio
2010-10-15 23:51 ` Grant Likely
2010-10-16 7:05 ` David Gibson [this message]
2010-10-14 0:38 ` Proposal: new device-tree syntax and semantics for extending information " David Gibson
2010-10-14 1:40 ` Grant Likely
[not found] ` <20101014014036.GE15286-MrY2KI0G/OVr83L8+7iqerDks+cytr/Z@public.gmane.org>
2010-10-14 1:49 ` Grant Likely
2010-10-14 3:08 ` John Bonesio
2010-10-14 3:37 ` Grant Likely
2010-10-14 4:00 ` David Gibson
2010-10-14 3:48 ` David Gibson
2010-10-14 4:54 ` Grant Likely
[not found] ` <20101014045413.GK15286-MrY2KI0G/OVr83L8+7iqerDks+cytr/Z@public.gmane.org>
2010-10-16 7:02 ` David Gibson
2010-10-16 18:57 ` Grant Likely
[not found] ` <AANLkTi=QaV5KvhFzyci2yykmsV9+Zz71vmoRrrFDGvK--JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2010-10-16 19:50 ` John Bonesio
2010-10-17 6:17 ` Grant Likely
2010-10-19 2:48 ` David Gibson
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