From: Russell King - ARM Linux <linux-lFZ/pmaqli7XmaaqVzeoHQ@public.gmane.org>
To: Nicolas Pitre <nicolas.pitre-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
Cc: "Tony Lindgren" <tony-4v6yS6AI5VpBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>,
devicetree-discuss-uLR06cmDAlY/bJ5BZ2RsiQ@public.gmane.org,
"Petr Štetiar" <ynezz-knWk7/PSn+s@public.gmane.org>,
linux-arm-kernel-IAPFreCvJWM7uuMidbF8XUB+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/3] patches to allow DTB to be appended to the ARM zImage
Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2011 16:59:40 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110612155940.GM10283@n2100.arm.linux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.2.00.1106121145570.2142-QuJgVwGFrdf/9pzu0YdTqQ@public.gmane.org>
On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 11:47:59AM -0400, Nicolas Pitre wrote:
> On Sun, 12 Jun 2011, Russell King - ARM Linux wrote:
> > And we've ended up with a fucked up situation which is extremely
> > fragile, and actually makes me _NOT_ want to convert any existing
> > platforms to use DT in the least.
>
> Agreed. I don't think that anything older than OMAP2 is worth
> converting to DT. The return on the investment is simply not worth it,
> other than for experimental purposes.
I think you haven't appreciated the situation - let's take PXA as an
example. PXA has been around for years, and IP in the latest silicon
is present in many of the older silicons too.
There's two issues here:
1. If we port existing drivers over to use DT as a means to shrink the
size of the kernel, we need _all_ PXA using platforms to use DT.
2. If we continue having board support for PXA submitted, we want it to
use DT support.
The result will be a mess of some bits of PXA using DT, other bits using
statically declared stuff. It may get to the point where on some PXA
platforms DT is used to describe some of the system, and on a different
PXA platform, it describes some other but needs some static stuff.
I don't see this as a sustainable way forward. If we're going to move a
particular SoC over to DT, we need to move the entire SoC over. We can't
do this half-heartedly.
And that means we _must_ deal with accepting ATAGs from existing boot
loaders, with that information taking precidence over the DT blob
supplied with the kernel.
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Thread overview: 72+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-06-12 6:06 [PATCH 0/3] patches to allow DTB to be appended to the ARM zImage Nicolas Pitre
2011-06-12 6:06 ` [PATCH 1/3] ARM: zImage: ensure it is always a multiple of 64 bits in size Nicolas Pitre
2011-06-13 10:43 ` Tony Lindgren
[not found] ` <1307858800-16712-2-git-send-email-nicolas.pitre-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2011-06-13 11:24 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
[not found] ` <20110613112454.GA12325-l+eeeJia6m9vn6HldHNs0ANdhmdF6hFW@public.gmane.org>
2011-06-13 14:06 ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-06-12 6:06 ` [PATCH 2/3] ARM: zImage: Allow the appending of a device tree binary Nicolas Pitre
2011-06-12 15:01 ` Grant Likely
2011-06-13 10:46 ` Tony Lindgren
[not found] ` <20110613104648.GD10951-4v6yS6AI5VpBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
2011-06-13 11:26 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
[not found] ` <20110613112604.GB12325-l+eeeJia6m9vn6HldHNs0ANdhmdF6hFW@public.gmane.org>
2011-06-13 14:08 ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-06-12 6:06 ` [PATCH 3/3] ARM: zImage: make sure appended DTB doesn't get overwritten by kernel .bss Nicolas Pitre
2011-06-13 10:47 ` Tony Lindgren
2011-06-12 8:15 ` [PATCH 0/3] patches to allow DTB to be appended to the ARM zImage Russell King - ARM Linux
[not found] ` <20110612081541.GA10283-l+eeeJia6m9vn6HldHNs0ANdhmdF6hFW@public.gmane.org>
2011-06-12 8:34 ` Shawn Guo
[not found] ` <20110612083414.GA29516-+NayF8gZjK2ctlrPMvKcciBecyulp+rMXqFh9Ls21Oc@public.gmane.org>
2011-06-12 9:21 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
[not found] ` <20110612092131.GC10283-l+eeeJia6m9vn6HldHNs0ANdhmdF6hFW@public.gmane.org>
2011-06-12 9:38 ` Shawn Guo
[not found] ` <20110612093822.GB29516-+NayF8gZjK2ctlrPMvKcciBecyulp+rMXqFh9Ls21Oc@public.gmane.org>
2011-06-12 9:52 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
[not found] ` <20110612095217.GD10283-l+eeeJia6m9vn6HldHNs0ANdhmdF6hFW@public.gmane.org>
2011-06-12 10:42 ` Shawn Guo
[not found] ` <20110612104215.GC29516-+NayF8gZjK2ctlrPMvKcciBecyulp+rMXqFh9Ls21Oc@public.gmane.org>
2011-06-12 10:40 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-06-13 20:19 ` Dmitry Eremin-Solenikov
2011-06-13 23:04 ` David Brown
[not found] ` <8yaaadlfi3q.fsf-AOX6H5vLt3Uj8izMo0bVsAC/G2K4zDHf@public.gmane.org>
2011-06-13 23:13 ` Nicolas Pitre
[not found] ` <alpine.LFD.2.00.1106131910570.2142-QuJgVwGFrdf/9pzu0YdTqQ@public.gmane.org>
2011-06-14 7:09 ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-06-14 14:53 ` Tony Lindgren
[not found] ` <20110614145329.GK23145-4v6yS6AI5VpBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
2011-06-14 17:28 ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-06-14 20:32 ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-06-14 21:21 ` Nicolas Pitre
[not found] ` <alpine.LFD.2.00.1106141650520.2142-QuJgVwGFrdf/9pzu0YdTqQ@public.gmane.org>
2011-06-14 21:42 ` Arnd Bergmann
[not found] ` <201106142342.29405.arnd-r2nGTMty4D4@public.gmane.org>
2011-06-14 22:06 ` Grant Likely
2011-06-15 8:08 ` Tony Lindgren
[not found] ` <201106142232.02217.arnd-r2nGTMty4D4@public.gmane.org>
2011-06-14 22:32 ` Rob Herring
[not found] ` <4DF7E191.1050705-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2011-06-14 23:50 ` Nicolas Pitre
[not found] ` <alpine.LFD.2.00.1106141948060.2142-QuJgVwGFrdf/9pzu0YdTqQ@public.gmane.org>
2011-06-15 2:09 ` Rob Herring
2011-06-15 2:21 ` Nicolas Pitre
[not found] ` <alpine.LFD.2.00.1106140300500.2142-QuJgVwGFrdf/9pzu0YdTqQ@public.gmane.org>
2011-06-14 11:25 ` Shawn Guo
2011-06-14 21:38 ` David Brown
2011-06-14 23:27 ` [PATCH] Support multiple MEM tags with atags->fdt conversion David Brown
2011-06-15 19:50 ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-06-15 20:15 ` David Brown
2011-06-15 20:20 ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-06-16 1:43 ` David Gibson
2011-06-20 4:03 ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-06-20 4:53 ` David Gibson
2011-06-17 20:23 ` David Brown
2011-06-12 11:22 ` [PATCH 0/3] patches to allow DTB to be appended to the ARM zImage Petr Štetiar
[not found] ` <20110612112219.GD16318-iAOvNCVgjNNH4x6Dk/4f9A@public.gmane.org>
2011-06-12 11:58 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-06-12 14:15 ` Arnd Bergmann
[not found] ` <201106121615.24059.arnd-r2nGTMty4D4@public.gmane.org>
2011-06-12 14:34 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
[not found] ` <20110612143428.GI10283-l+eeeJia6m9vn6HldHNs0ANdhmdF6hFW@public.gmane.org>
2011-06-12 15:01 ` Arnd Bergmann
[not found] ` <201106121701.22418.arnd-r2nGTMty4D4@public.gmane.org>
2011-06-12 15:35 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
[not found] ` <20110612153536.GL10283-l+eeeJia6m9vn6HldHNs0ANdhmdF6hFW@public.gmane.org>
2011-06-12 15:45 ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-06-12 14:57 ` Grant Likely
[not found] ` <20110612145751.GA4013-e0URQFbLeQY2iJbIjFUEsiwD8/FfD2ys@public.gmane.org>
2011-06-12 15:19 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-06-12 15:47 ` Nicolas Pitre
[not found] ` <alpine.LFD.2.00.1106121145570.2142-QuJgVwGFrdf/9pzu0YdTqQ@public.gmane.org>
2011-06-12 15:59 ` Russell King - ARM Linux [this message]
[not found] ` <20110612155940.GM10283-l+eeeJia6m9vn6HldHNs0ANdhmdF6hFW@public.gmane.org>
2011-06-12 18:59 ` Nicolas Pitre
[not found] ` <alpine.LFD.2.00.1106121454510.2142-QuJgVwGFrdf/9pzu0YdTqQ@public.gmane.org>
2011-06-13 9:51 ` Tony Lindgren
[not found] ` <20110613095142.GA10951-4v6yS6AI5VpBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
2011-06-13 14:14 ` Nicolas Pitre
[not found] ` <alpine.LFD.2.00.1106131010150.2142-QuJgVwGFrdf/9pzu0YdTqQ@public.gmane.org>
2011-06-13 14:20 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
[not found] ` <20110613142044.GC13643-l+eeeJia6m9vn6HldHNs0ANdhmdF6hFW@public.gmane.org>
2011-06-13 15:02 ` Tony Lindgren
2011-06-13 15:14 ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-06-13 15:17 ` Grant Likely
2011-06-12 19:26 ` Warner Losh
2011-06-13 9:59 ` Tony Lindgren
[not found] ` <20110612115820.GF10283-l+eeeJia6m9vn6HldHNs0ANdhmdF6hFW@public.gmane.org>
2011-06-12 15:41 ` Nicolas Pitre
[not found] ` <alpine.LFD.2.00.1106121051380.2142-QuJgVwGFrdf/9pzu0YdTqQ@public.gmane.org>
2011-06-14 0:13 ` David Brown
2011-09-06 11:23 ` Linus Walleij
2011-06-21 1:40 ` David Gibson
2011-06-13 4:31 ` Grant Likely
[not found] ` <BANLkTik_hH9tZ5MMbOYzhZwLFTFQyJyfRg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2011-06-13 20:44 ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-09-05 15:43 ` Tony Lindgren
2011-09-05 19:32 ` Nicolas Pitre
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