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From: Russell King - ARM Linux <linux-lFZ/pmaqli7XmaaqVzeoHQ@public.gmane.org>
To: Alan Cox <alan-qBU/x9rampVanCEyBjwyrvXRex20P6io@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Nicolas Pitre
	<nicolas.pitre-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>,
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	Jeff Garzik <jgarzik-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
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	Anton Vorontsov
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	Andrew Morton
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	Linus Torvalds
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	Ingo Molnar <mingo-X9Un+BFzKDI@public.gmane.org>,
	linux-arm-kernel-IAPFreCvJWM7uuMidbF8XUB+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] ata: Don't use NO_IRQ in pata_of_platform driver
Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2011 11:25:45 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20111206112545.GQ14542@n2100.arm.linux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20111206110554.53bddd14-qBU/x9rampVanCEyBjwyrvXRex20P6io@public.gmane.org>

On Tue, Dec 06, 2011 at 11:05:54AM +0000, Alan Cox wrote:
> > Even better.  Avoid the first 16 IRQ numbers altogether - so that ISA
> > drivers which have these numbers hard-encoded in them will see failures
> > if they're expecting standard ISA IRQ numbering.
> 
> The ISA bus space is non-discoverable so that doesn't make any sense.
> 
> > But.. let's make one thing clear: Alan Cox and Linus have been going on
> > about how IRQ0 should not be used.  Let's be crystal clear: even x86
> > uses IRQ0.  It happens to be the PIC timer, and that gets claimed early
> > on during the x86 boot.  So please don't tell me that x86 avoids IRQ0.
> > It doesn't.  It just happens that x86 never shows IRQ0 to anything but
> > the i8253 PIC driver.
> 
> x86 has an internal invisible IRQ 0 on some platforms. It's never exposed
> beyond the arch code.
> 
> > So lets see how x86 squeels if we make the i8253 PIC driver reject IRQ0.
> > I bet that there'd be absolute fury at such a suggestion.
> 
> Actually it would be about ten minutes work to remap it to some other
> number that isn't used. It never goes via request_irq or via any core or
> driver layer code however.
> 
> In the ARM case the same is going to be true. If you have IRQ 0 plumbing
> that only goes internally in the arch/arm code - eg an ARM with IRQ 0
> wired to something totally arch specific and non-driver then it's not
> going to break and like the internals of x86 doesn't matter.
> 
> > When x86 sorts this out, there _might_ be some more motivation to take
> > such comments seriously.  Until then it's more like a joke.
> 
> Pity you feel that way, but if ARM wants to continue to break more and
> more as we clean up NO_IRQ for everything else that's your privilege, but
> don't expect any sympathy.

For the platforms I care about, it probably won't break.  For those which
do break, it's a matter of fixing their include/mach/irqs.h and the code
in their irqchips to convert the IRQ number to the correct bitmask for
the register.

However, I have suggested in the past that new platforms _should_ avoid
not just IRQ0 but IRQ0-15 (for a completely different reason to that of
'IRQ0 means no IRQ'.)  But such comments just get ignored, so I just
don't see the point in doing anything about this.  If people experience
breakage, so be it.  I too will have little sympathy but not for the same
reason.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2011-12-06 11:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20111011201127.455df266dcbffb1d621f8576@canb.auug.org.au>
     [not found] ` <4E94A920.40503@xenotime.net>
     [not found]   ` <4E987829.3080104@xenotime.net>
     [not found]     ` <20111110135703.GA23609@elte.hu>
2011-11-10 15:18       ` [PATCH] ata: Fix build error in pata_of_platform (NO_IRQ usage) Anton Vorontsov
2011-11-10 15:25         ` [PATCH 1/2] of/irq: Get rid of NO_IRQ usage Anton Vorontsov
2011-12-06 21:22           ` Rob Herring
2011-12-06 21:25             ` Linus Torvalds
2011-12-06 23:16               ` [PATCH v3] " Anton Vorontsov
2011-12-07  3:51                 ` Rob Herring
     [not found]                   ` <1323268911-6104-1-git-send-email-robherring2@gmail.com>
     [not found]                     ` <1323268911-6104-1-git-send-email-robherring2-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2011-12-07 15:02                       ` [RFC PATCH] microblaze/irq: Change NO_IRQ to 0 Grant Likely
2011-12-09 11:45                       ` Michal Simek
2011-12-07 16:05                     ` Linus Torvalds
2011-12-07 16:39                       ` Rob Herring
     [not found]                 ` <20111206231626.GA31683-wnGakbxT3iijyJ0x5qLZdcN33GVbZNy3@public.gmane.org>
2011-12-07  9:52                   ` [PATCH v3] of/irq: Get rid of NO_IRQ usage Wolfram Sang
2011-11-10 15:26         ` [PATCH 2/2] ata: Don't use NO_IRQ in pata_of_platform driver Anton Vorontsov
2011-11-10 15:38           ` Alan Cox
2011-11-10 16:28             ` [PATCH] " Anton Vorontsov
2011-11-10 20:34               ` Jeff Garzik
2011-12-02 19:19               ` Dave Martin
2011-12-02 22:34                 ` Anton Vorontsov
2011-12-02 22:40                   ` Anton Vorontsov
2011-12-02 22:46                     ` Anton Vorontsov
2011-12-02 22:40                   ` Linus Torvalds
2011-12-02 23:18                     ` [PATCH v2] of/irq: Get rid of NO_IRQ usage Anton Vorontsov
2011-12-02 23:22                 ` [PATCH] ata: Don't use NO_IRQ in pata_of_platform driver Alan Cox
2011-12-03 18:56                   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2011-12-02 19:26               ` Dave Martin
2011-12-02 19:28                 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-12-02 23:12                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-12-05 16:11                     ` Dave Martin
2011-12-05 17:40                       ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-12-05 18:02                         ` Dave Martin
2011-12-05 18:15                           ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2011-12-05 18:18                           ` Nicolas Pitre
     [not found]                             ` <alpine.LFD.2.02.1112051310150.2357-QuJgVwGFrdf/9pzu0YdTqQ@public.gmane.org>
2011-12-05 18:45                               ` Alan Cox
2011-12-05 19:19                                 ` James Bottomley
2011-12-06  6:13                                 ` Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD
     [not found]                                   ` <20111206061321.GH9192-RQcB7r2h9QmfDR2tN2SG5Ni2O/JbrIOy@public.gmane.org>
2011-12-06 11:34                                     ` Alan Cox
2011-12-05 19:16                               ` Rob Herring
2011-12-05 20:21                                 ` Anton Vorontsov
2011-12-05 20:47                                   ` Rob Herring
     [not found]                                     ` <4EDD2DE1.1050606-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2011-12-05 20:53                                       ` Alan Cox
2011-12-06  9:30                                     ` Dave Martin
     [not found]                                       ` <20111206093000.GA2274-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2011-12-06 10:34                                         ` Alan Cox
2011-12-06 10:55                                         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-12-05 19:26                             ` Dave Martin
2011-12-05 19:49                               ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-12-06  9:37                                 ` Dave Martin
     [not found]                                   ` <20111206093709.GB2274-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2011-12-06 10:46                                     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-12-06 11:00                                       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2011-12-06 11:03                                         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-12-06 11:10                                         ` Alan Cox
2011-12-06 11:05                                       ` Alan Cox
     [not found]                                         ` <20111206110554.53bddd14-qBU/x9rampVanCEyBjwyrvXRex20P6io@public.gmane.org>
2011-12-06 11:25                                           ` Russell King - ARM Linux [this message]
2011-12-06 12:11                                             ` Alan Cox
2011-12-06 11:37                                       ` Dave Martin
2011-12-06 11:49                                         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-12-06 13:25                                           ` Dave Martin
2011-12-06 19:56                                           ` Rob Herring
2011-12-06 19:20                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2011-12-06 20:00                                         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
     [not found]                                         ` <CA+55aFwZBr+3_S9kU-+m8zN8iwOvn2miuuAy-zt7sUjW_+abBg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2011-12-06 20:59                                           ` Uwe Kleine-König
2011-12-06 19:11                                   ` Nicolas Pitre
     [not found]                       ` <20111205161157.GA27550-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2011-12-05 17:41                         ` Alan Cox
2011-11-10 15:35         ` [PATCH] ata: Fix build error in pata_of_platform (NO_IRQ usage) Alan Cox

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