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From: Russell King - ARM Linux <linux-lFZ/pmaqli7XmaaqVzeoHQ@public.gmane.org>
To: "Cousson, Benoit" <b-cousson-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>
Cc: "devicetree-discuss-uLR06cmDAlY/bJ5BZ2RsiQ@public.gmane.org"
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Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 1/2] of: Add generic device tree DMA helpers
Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2012 08:45:39 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120202084539.GC1275@n2100.arm.linux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4F2918F6.9040100-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>

On Wed, Feb 01, 2012 at 11:50:30AM +0100, Cousson, Benoit wrote:
> Hi Russell,
>
> On 2/1/2012 12:09 AM, Russell King - ARM Linux wrote:
>> On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 11:06:02AM -0700, Grant Likely wrote:
>>> This makes the assumption that dma specifiers will only ever be 1
>>> cell.  I think to be generally useful, the full dma specifier needs to
>>> be either handed to the dma controller to get a cookie or passed back
>>> to the caller in its entirety.
>>
>> More to the point, who says that the DMA specifier is even an integer?
>> When people are using DMA engines, it (probably) isn't an integer at
>> all.  Several platforms I know of use strings for this.
>>
>> Some platforms can even select between two or more DMA engines for
>> handling the same peripheral - I believe Samsung do this depending
>> on their individual workloads.
>>
>> However, the opaque DMA engine API for requesting a channel doesn't
>> lend itself well to DT, as the match data and match function are
>> entirely left to the individual DMA engine driver and/or platform
>> itself.
>>
>> As far as creating another linear number space for DMA stuff, I'd
>> really suggest against that - you're going to need some additional
>> code in place to manage that numberspace.  If you at least use a two-
>> paid cookie, eg 'dma controller phandle + request signal' then that
>> makes all the stuff we're starting to see with the IRQ subsystem,
>> IRQ domains etc become completely unnecessary.
>>
>> I guess what I'm saying is ignore the flat number space, and go
>> straight to some kind of 'dma domains' solution from the start.
>
> Fully agree, and this is exactly the idea of this DMA binding: First  
> argument is always a DMA controller phandle and then you can add 0, 1 or  
> more cells to define extra specifiers dependent of the DMA controller  
> driver expectation. The one cell Grant was referring was just the extra  
> specifier that is needed for a simple DMA engine like the SDMA we have  
> inside OMAP. But the whole idea is to have a flexible enough mechanism  
> to allow any kind of specifier.
>
> No more global linear number space like for IRQ!

How does this work when you're stuffing a number into a struct resource
as a plain DMA number?  That looks very much like a linear number space,
as you don't have a way to associate that number with anything else.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2012-02-02  8:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 80+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-01-27 17:29 [RFC PATCH 1/2] of: Add generic device tree DMA helpers Cousson, Benoit
2012-01-27 18:13 ` Stephen Warren
2012-01-27 20:36   ` Cousson, Benoit
2012-01-28 18:12     ` Grant Likely
2012-01-28 18:06 ` Grant Likely
2012-01-31 21:26   ` Cousson, Benoit
2012-02-02  4:52     ` Grant Likely
2012-01-31 23:09   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2012-02-01 10:50     ` Cousson, Benoit
     [not found]       ` <4F2918F6.9040100-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>
2012-02-02  8:45         ` Russell King - ARM Linux [this message]
     [not found]           ` <20120202084539.GC1275-l+eeeJia6m9vn6HldHNs0ANdhmdF6hFW@public.gmane.org>
2012-02-02  8:54             ` Cousson, Benoit
2012-02-22 10:59 ` Nicolas Ferre
2012-02-23 10:03   ` Cousson, Benoit
2012-02-23 15:51     ` Nicolas Ferre
2012-02-23 15:57       ` Cousson, Benoit
     [not found]         ` <4F4661DE.90704-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>
2012-02-27 13:09           ` Nicolas Ferre
2012-02-27 14:22             ` Cousson, Benoit
2012-02-27 17:28               ` Nicolas Ferre
2012-02-29 14:54 ` [RFC PATCH] of: DMA helpers: manage generic requests specification Nicolas Ferre
2012-02-29 20:54   ` Stephen Warren
2012-03-05 13:14     ` Cousson, Benoit
2012-03-05 18:30       ` Stephen Warren
2012-03-05 19:57         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2012-03-05 10:55   ` Cousson, Benoit
2012-03-05 15:36   ` Grant Likely
2012-03-14 17:47     ` Nicolas Ferre
2012-03-14 18:16       ` Stephen Warren
     [not found] ` <4F22DEF2.5000807-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>
2012-03-15  8:38   ` [PATCH] of: Add generic device tree DMA helpers Nicolas Ferre
2012-03-15  9:22     ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-03-15  9:26       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2012-03-15 10:09         ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-03-17  9:42         ` Grant Likely
2012-03-17 16:03           ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-03-18  9:08             ` Grant Likely
2012-03-15 10:27       ` Thierry Reding
2012-03-17 10:47         ` Grant Likely
2012-03-18  9:22           ` Thierry Reding
2012-03-18 15:10             ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-03-18 18:22             ` Grant Likely
2012-03-19 13:02           ` Mark Brown
2012-03-19 15:01             ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-03-19 15:07               ` Stephen Warren
2012-03-19 15:45                 ` Arnd Bergmann
     [not found]                   ` <201203191545.40933.arnd-r2nGTMty4D4@public.gmane.org>
2012-03-19 16:54                     ` Stephen Warren
2012-03-15 16:30       ` Cousson, Benoit
2012-03-15 19:57         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
     [not found]           ` <20120315195753.GA2842-l+eeeJia6m9vn6HldHNs0ANdhmdF6hFW@public.gmane.org>
2012-03-15 20:41             ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-03-15 21:39               ` Cousson, Benoit
2012-03-15 21:55                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2012-03-16  9:56                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-03-20 14:02                 ` Matt Porter
2012-03-15 23:45           ` Nicolas Pitre
2012-03-16 10:03     ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-03-16 11:19       ` Cousson, Benoit
2012-03-16 12:04         ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-03-16 13:28           ` Cousson, Benoit
2012-03-16 13:36             ` Nicolas Ferre
2012-03-17  9:40     ` Grant Likely
2012-03-18 20:13       ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-03-18 20:44         ` Grant Likely
2012-03-18 21:58           ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-03-18 22:12             ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-03-19 13:37         ` Nicolas Ferre
2012-03-19 15:20           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2012-03-19 15:58             ` Cousson, Benoit
2012-03-19 13:30       ` Nicolas Ferre
2012-03-19 14:06         ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-03-19 15:33           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2012-03-19 16:11             ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-03-19 18:06               ` Jassi Brar
2012-03-19 16:31             ` Nicolas Ferre
2012-03-19 17:49               ` Cousson, Benoit
2012-03-19 14:45         ` Grant Likely
2012-03-20 14:54           ` Nicolas Ferre
2012-03-20 10:13     ` [PATCH v2 1/2] " Nicolas Ferre
2012-03-20 10:13       ` [PATCH 2/2] of: selftest/dma: Add selftest for new DT DMA request helpers Nicolas Ferre
2012-03-20 14:16         ` Grant Likely
2012-03-20 10:17       ` [PATCH] of: dma/fixup Nicolas Ferre
     [not found]       ` <6b5dc1fadfd03a48093338b6981c0a7ae7662212.1332237596.git.nicolas.ferre-AIFe0yeh4nAAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2012-03-20 13:03         ` [PATCH v2 1/2] of: Add generic device tree DMA helpers Arnd Bergmann
2012-03-20 15:38       ` Stephen Warren

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