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From: Arnd Bergmann <arnd-r2nGTMty4D4@public.gmane.org>
To: Thomas Petazzoni
	<thomas.petazzoni-wi1+55ScJUtKEb57/3fJTNBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Mike Turquette
	<mturquette-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>,
	Florian Fainelli
	<florian-p3rKhJxN3npAfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org>,
	devicetree-discuss-uLR06cmDAlY/bJ5BZ2RsiQ@public.gmane.org,
	linux-arm-kernel-IAPFreCvJWM7uuMidbF8XUB+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/8] ARM: support for Moschip MCS814x SoCs
Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 13:12:06 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <201207171312.06987.arnd@arndb.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120717121640.589780ce@skate>

On Tuesday 17 July 2012, Thomas Petazzoni wrote:
> Le Mon, 16 Jul 2012 15:54:04 +0000,
> Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de> a écrit :
> 
> > > +void mcs814x_restart(char mode, const char *cmd)
> > > +{
> > > +   __raw_writel(~(1 << 31), mcs814x_sysdbg_base);
> > > +}
> > 
> > You should generally avoid using __raw_readl etc. and instead use
> > readl/write or readl_relaxed/writel_relaxed.
> 
> I thought that readl/writel and readl_relaxed/writel_relaxed were used
> for PCI-style access, for which these macros/functions do automatically
> a conversion from the CPU-endianness to the PCI-endianness
> (little-endian). Here of course, this the SoC is used little-endian, it
> will just work because readl/writel will not do any endianness
> conversion, but if we were on a big-endian machine?
> 
> My understanding until now was that __raw_readl/__raw_writel should be
> used for accesses with native endianness, but apparently, it's more
> subtle than this. Would you mind expanding a bit on this?

The __raw_* versions are basically only valid if you access a memory
buffer, such as a video framebuffer. They do the conversion of an
__iomem pointer into something that can be accessed by the compiler.

The non-raw versions have fixed endianess, guarantee that the access
is done atomically (could be byte-wise otherwise) and that all the
necessary barriers are used to synchronize against DMA and out-of-order
execution.

We don't actually have accessors that are CPU-endian and guarantee that
you can access an MMIO register properly.

On powerpc, the convention is that readl/writel should only be used
to access PCI, but that is for the enhanced error handling, not for
endianess.

	Arnd
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Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-07-15 14:49 [PATCH 0/8] ARM: support for Moschip MCS814x SoCs Florian Fainelli
2012-07-15 14:49 ` [PATCH 1/8] " Florian Fainelli
2012-07-16 12:29   ` Thomas Petazzoni
2012-07-16 12:43     ` Florian Fainelli
2012-07-16 15:55       ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-07-16 17:57       ` Nicolas Pitre
2012-07-23 19:11     ` Florian Fainelli
2012-07-27 22:42       ` Linus Walleij
     [not found]   ` <1342363754-30808-2-git-send-email-florian-p3rKhJxN3npAfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org>
2012-07-16 15:54     ` Arnd Bergmann
     [not found]       ` <201207161554.04812.arnd-r2nGTMty4D4@public.gmane.org>
2012-07-16 20:47         ` Turquette, Mike
2012-07-17  9:41           ` Florian Fainelli
2012-07-17 10:47           ` Florian Fainelli
2012-07-16 22:12         ` Linus Walleij
2012-07-17  9:35           ` Florian Fainelli
2012-07-17  9:34       ` Florian Fainelli
2012-07-17 13:07         ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-07-17 13:32           ` Florian Fainelli
2012-07-17 13:45             ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-07-17 10:16       ` Thomas Petazzoni
2012-07-17 13:12         ` Arnd Bergmann [this message]
2012-07-17 13:28           ` Thomas Petazzoni
2012-07-17 13:51             ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-07-16 22:06     ` Linus Walleij
2012-07-15 14:49 ` [PATCH 2/8] ARM: MCS814x: add Device Tree based MCS8140 board support Florian Fainelli
     [not found]   ` <1342363754-30808-3-git-send-email-florian-p3rKhJxN3npAfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org>
2012-07-17 13:19     ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-07-17 13:34       ` Florian Fainelli
2012-07-17 13:53         ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-07-17 13:57           ` Florian Fainelli
2012-07-15 14:49 ` [PATCH 3/8] ARM: MCS814x: add Device Tree bindings documentation Florian Fainelli
     [not found]   ` <1342363754-30808-4-git-send-email-florian-p3rKhJxN3npAfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org>
2012-07-17 13:24     ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-07-17 13:35       ` Florian Fainelli
2012-07-15 14:49 ` [PATCH 4/8] ARM: MCS814X: add DTS file for Tigal/Robotech RBT-832 Florian Fainelli
     [not found]   ` <1342363754-30808-5-git-send-email-florian-p3rKhJxN3npAfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org>
2012-07-17 13:27     ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-07-15 14:49 ` [PATCH 5/8] ARM: MCS814x: add DTS file for Devolo dLAN USB Extender Florian Fainelli
2012-07-15 14:49 ` [PATCH 6/8] ARM: MCS814x: provide a sample defconfig file Florian Fainelli
2012-07-15 14:49 ` [PATCH 7/8] ARM: MSC814X: add Kconfig and Makefile to arch/arm Florian Fainelli
2012-07-15 14:49 ` [PATCH 8/8] ARM: MSC814x: add MAINTAINERS entry Florian Fainelli
     [not found] ` <1342363754-30808-1-git-send-email-florian-p3rKhJxN3npAfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org>
2012-07-15 19:59   ` [PATCH 0/8] ARM: support for Moschip MCS814x SoCs Arnd Bergmann
2012-07-16  8:16     ` Florian Fainelli
     [not found]     ` <201207151959.19620.arnd-r2nGTMty4D4@public.gmane.org>
2012-07-16 18:09       ` Nicolas Pitre

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