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From: Steffen Trumtrar <s.trumtrar-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org>
To: Stephen Warren <swarren-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>
Cc: linux-fbdev-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	devicetree-discuss-uLR06cmDAlY/bJ5BZ2RsiQ@public.gmane.org,
	dri-devel-PD4FTy7X32lNgt0PjOBp9y5qC8QIuHrW@public.gmane.org,
	Laurent Pinchart
	<laurent.pinchart-ryLnwIuWjnjg/C1BVhZhaw@public.gmane.org>,
	kernel-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org,
	Sascha Hauer <s.hauer-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4] of: Add videomode helper
Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2012 10:03:43 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120925080343.GB24753@pengutronix.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5060E82A.3030404-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>

On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 05:09:30PM -0600, Stephen Warren wrote:
> On 09/24/2012 12:26 PM, Rob Herring wrote:
> > On 09/24/2012 10:45 AM, Stephen Warren wrote:
> >> On 09/24/2012 07:42 AM, Rob Herring wrote:
> >>> On 09/19/2012 03:20 AM, Steffen Trumtrar wrote:
> >>>> This patch adds a helper function for parsing videomodes from the devicetree.
> >>>> The videomode can be either converted to a struct drm_display_mode or a
> >>>> struct fb_videomode.
> >>
> >>>> +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/video/displaymode
> >>>> @@ -0,0 +1,74 @@
> >>>> +videomode bindings
> >>>> +==================
> >>>> +
> >>>> +Required properties:
> >>>> + - hactive, vactive: Display resolution
> >>>> + - hfront-porch, hback-porch, hsync-len: Horizontal Display timing parameters
> >>>> +   in pixels
> >>>> +   vfront-porch, vback-porch, vsync-len: Vertical display timing parameters in
> >>>> +   lines
> >>>> + - clock: displayclock in Hz
> >>>
> >>> A major piece missing is the LCD controller to display interface width
> >>> and component ordering.
> >>
> >> I thought this binding was solely defining the timing of the video
> >> signal (hence "video mode"). Any definition of the physical interface to
> >> the LCD/display-connector is something entirely orthogonal, so it seems
> >> entirely reasonable to represent that separately.
> > 
> > It is not orthogonal because in many cases the LCD panel defines the
> > mode.
> 
> The LCD panel itself defines both the mode and the physical interface
> properties. The mode does not imply anything about the physical
> interface, nor does the physical interface imply anything about the
> mode. So, they are in fact orthogonal. In other words, just because you
> need both sets of information, doesn't make the two pieces of
> information correlated.
> 
> >>>> +Example:
> >>>> +
> >>>> +	display@0 {
> >>>
> >>> It would be useful to have a compatible string here. We may not always
> >>> know the panel type or have a fixed panel though. We could define
> >>> "generic-lcd" or something for cases where the panel type is unknown.
> >>>
> >>>> +		width-mm = <800>;
> >>>> +		height-mm = <480>;
> >>
> >> I would hope that everything in the example above this point is just
> >> that - an example, and this binding only covers the display mode
> >> definition - i.e. that part of the example below.
> >>
> > 
> > It's fairly clear this binding is being defined based on what Linux
> > supports vs. what the h/w looks like.
> > 
> >> If that's not the intent, as Rob says, there's a /ton/ of stuff missing.
> > 
> > Assuming not, what all is missing?
> 
> Everything related to the physical interface:
> 
> * For DSI, whatever it needs to be configured.
> * For LVDS, e.g. number of lanes of R, G, B.
> * Perhaps multi-pumping rates (# of clock signals to send each data
> value for, to satisfy any minimum clock rates)
> * Built-in displays typically need to be coupled with a backlight and
> all the associated control of that.
> * Pinctrl interaction.
> 
> and probably a bunch of other things I haven't thought about.

I already added some of those things in my v5. For those who missed it
<1348500924-8551-1-git-send-email-s.trumtrar-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org>
I renamed from "of videomode helper" to "of display helper", seemed to be more
clear what it is supposed to accomplish.

Regards,

Steffen


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  parent reply	other threads:[~2012-09-25  8:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-09-19  8:20 [PATCH v4] of: Add videomode helper Steffen Trumtrar
2012-09-21 13:07 ` Hans Verkuil
     [not found] ` <1348042843-24673-1-git-send-email-s.trumtrar-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org>
2012-09-19  9:19   ` Tomi Valkeinen
2012-09-20 21:29     ` Laurent Pinchart
2012-09-21 12:47       ` Steffen Trumtrar
2012-09-24 13:42   ` Rob Herring
     [not found]     ` <50606334.7030902-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2012-09-24 14:12       ` Sascha Hauer
     [not found]         ` <20120924141233.GN1322-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org>
2012-09-24 15:18           ` Rob Herring
     [not found]             ` <506079CF.40902-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2012-09-24 19:16               ` Sascha Hauer
     [not found]                 ` <20120924191628.GR1322-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org>
2012-09-25  7:51                   ` Steffen Trumtrar
2012-09-24 15:45       ` Stephen Warren
     [not found]         ` <50608000.6050007-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>
2012-09-24 18:26           ` Rob Herring
     [not found]             ` <5060A5D5.7040908-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2012-09-24 23:09               ` Stephen Warren
     [not found]                 ` <5060E82A.3030404-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>
2012-09-25  8:03                   ` Steffen Trumtrar [this message]
2012-09-25 11:23     ` Laurent Pinchart

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