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From: David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au>
To: Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com>
Cc: Scott Wood <scottwood@freescale.com>,
	Michal Marek <mmarek@suse.cz>,
	devicetree-discuss@lists.ozlabs.org,
	Stephen Warren <swarren@nvidia.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: dtc: import latest upstream dtc
Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 18:24:01 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20121010072401.GA28467@truffula.fritz.box> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ADE80D65-5170-4A8E-8D90-29161F8DB3BB@bsdimp.com>

On Tue, Oct 09, 2012 at 10:43:50PM -0600, Warner Losh wrote:
> 
> On Oct 9, 2012, at 6:04 PM, Scott Wood wrote:
> 
> > On 10/09/2012 06:20:53 PM, Mitch Bradley wrote:
> >> On 10/9/2012 11:16 AM, Stephen Warren wrote:
> >> > On 10/01/2012 12:39 PM, Jon Loeliger wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>> What more do you think needs discussion re: dtc+cpp?
> >> >>
> >> >> How not to abuse the ever-loving shit out of it? :-)
> >> >
> >> > Perhaps we can just handle this through the regular patch review
> >> > process; I think it may be difficult to define and agree upon exactly
> >> > what "abuse" means ahead of time, but it's probably going to be easy
> >> > enough to recognize it when one sees it?
> >> One of the ways it could get out of hand would be via "include
> >> dependency hell".  People will be tempted to reuse existing .h files
> >> containing pin definitions, which, if history is a guide, will end up
> >> depending on all sorts of other .h files.
> >> Another problem I often face with symbolic names is the difficulty of
> >> figuring out what the numerical values really are (for debugging),
> >> especially when .h files are in different subtrees from the files that
> >> use the definitions, and when they use multiple macro levels and fancy
> >> features like concatenation.  Sometimes I think it's clearer just to
> >> write the number and use a comment to say what it is.
> > 
> > Both comments apply just as well to ordinary C code, and I don't think anyone would seriously suggest just using comments instead for C code.
> 
> .h files include both structs and defines, which are fine for
> ordinary C code, but problematic in this context.

Right, cpp should be invoked with similar options to the way it's done
for asm files which have the same problem.  I'm not sure if the
current patch does so.

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  reply	other threads:[~2012-10-10  7:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-09-28 21:25 [PATCH] dtc: import latest upstream dtc Stephen Warren
2012-09-29 21:06 ` Jon Loeliger
2012-10-01 16:09 ` Rob Herring
     [not found]   ` <5069C042.40209-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-01 16:13     ` Stephen Warren
     [not found]       ` <5069C11C.6040505-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-01 17:56         ` Rob Herring
2012-10-01 18:33           ` Stephen Warren
     [not found]             ` <5069E1F0.5070902-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-01 18:39               ` Jon Loeliger
     [not found]                 ` <E1TIktZ-0000U4-Qh-CYoMK+44s/E@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-09 21:16                   ` Stephen Warren
     [not found]                     ` <50749441.8030307-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-09 23:20                       ` Mitch Bradley
2012-10-10  0:04                         ` Scott Wood
2012-10-10  4:43                           ` Warner Losh
2012-10-10  7:24                             ` David Gibson [this message]
     [not found]                               ` <20121010072401.GA28467-W9XWwYn+TF0XU02nzanrWNbf9cGiqdzd@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-10 14:41                                 ` Warner Losh
2012-10-10 23:06                                   ` David Gibson
2012-10-10 15:16                               ` Stephen Warren
2012-10-10 15:33                                 ` Rob Herring
2012-10-10 16:19                                   ` Stephen Warren
2012-10-10 17:18                                     ` Rob Herring
2012-10-10 18:42                                       ` Stephen Warren
     [not found]                                   ` <5075954B.8030008-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-10 23:16                                     ` David Gibson
2012-10-11  1:42                                       ` Mitch Bradley
     [not found]                                         ` <50762409.5060105-D5eQfiDGL7eakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-11  5:11                                           ` David Gibson
     [not found]                                 ` <50759152.9050407-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-10 23:09                                   ` David Gibson
2012-10-10 15:15                           ` Stephen Warren
2012-10-10 16:09                             ` Scott Wood
2012-10-10 16:22                               ` Stephen Warren
2012-10-10 23:18                                 ` David Gibson
2012-10-12 17:24                                   ` Stephen Warren
     [not found]                                     ` <5078525B.9030008-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-13  6:24                                       ` David Gibson
     [not found]                                         ` <20121013062453.GH4640-W9XWwYn+TF0XU02nzanrWNbf9cGiqdzd@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-13 13:42                                           ` Segher Boessenkool
     [not found]                                             ` <3C5DD611-6F36-4D13-9A88-377A8E30AAA5-XVmvHMARGAS8U2dJNN8I7kB+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-14  0:16                                               ` David Gibson
2012-10-10 17:09                     ` Rob Herring
     [not found]                       ` <5075ABB8.103-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-10 18:23                         ` Mitch Bradley
     [not found]                           ` <5075BD21.2070106-D5eQfiDGL7eakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-10 18:45                             ` Stephen Warren
     [not found]                               ` <5075C254.4040304-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-10 18:56                                 ` Mitch Bradley
2012-10-11  0:14                                   ` David Gibson
2012-10-10 23:54                               ` David Gibson
2012-10-10 18:40                       ` Stephen Warren
     [not found]                         ` <5075C10C.1030205-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-10 18:52                           ` Mitch Bradley
2012-10-01 18:02     ` Jon Loeliger

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