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From: Lorenzo Pieralisi <lorenzo.pieralisi-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
To: David Gibson <david-xT8FGy+AXnRB3Ne2BGzF6laj5H9X9Tb+@public.gmane.org>
Cc: "nicolas.pitre-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org"
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Subject: Re: [RFC] DT affinity bindings/representing bus masters with DT
Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2013 15:20:39 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130325152038.GC27959@e102568-lin.cambridge.arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130319070734.GX9402-W9XWwYn+TF0XU02nzanrWNbf9cGiqdzd@public.gmane.org>

On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 07:07:34AM +0000, David Gibson wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 09:48:16AM +0000, Lorenzo Pieralisi wrote:
> > On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 03:09:28AM +0000, David Gibson wrote:
> > > On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 05:06:57PM +0000, Lorenzo Pieralisi wrote:
> > > > Hi David,
> > > > 
> > > > thanks for your feedback.
> > > > 
> > > > On Wed, Mar 06, 2013 at 09:57:14PM +0000, David Gibson wrote:
> > > > > On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 05:21:02PM +0000, Lorenzo Pieralisi wrote:
> > > [snip]
> > > > > > Each foo@2000000 reg property maps to a device that represents a bus master
> > > > > > (to make it clearer, a foo@2000000 reg property defines an address space that
> > > > > > belongs to a bus master, ie the address space represents a programming
> > > > > > interface specific to that master; in the bindings above address 0x2000000 is
> > > > > > the address at which acme1 device can programme its "foo" interface, address
> > > > > > 0x2001000 is the address at which acme2 device can programme its "foo"
> > > > > > interface).
> > > > > 
> > > > > Ok.  I think annotating the existing reg property like this is a very
> > > > > bad idea.  I haven't seen all the previous discussion, so I'm not
> > > > > totally clean on what this affinity concept is about.  But as I
> > > > > understand it, these "slave" resources cannot be treated like an
> > > > > ordinary resource in in the reg property.  That means an older client
> > > > > will potentially misinterpret "reg" because it doesn't know about
> > > > > "affinity".
> > > > 
> > > > Not really, "reg" still complies with the current DT bindings. Affinity
> > > > is there to associate a reg property to a "master" but the reg property
> > > > definition does not change. I do not think backward compatibility is a
> > > > problem per-se here.
> > > 
> > > Ok, I did not understand the problem properly.
> > > 
> > > > > Worse, again, if I've understood correctly, resources with different
> > > > > "masters" are essentially in different logical address spaces.  "reg"
> > > > > properties should always sit in the logical address space representing
> > > > > the parent node's bus.  Different address spaces could also have
> > > > > different address sizes, which would really complicate parsing "reg".
> > > > 
> > > > I think we need to post what we have, it is really complex to explain
> > > > the issue without a concrete example. To cut a long story short I
> > > > would not say that the resources sit in different address spaces, it is
> > > > that we need to associate those address ranges with specific bus masters.
> > > > 
> > > > We have to have a way to say:
> > > > 
> > > > "Address range 0x80001000 - 0x80001fff is used to programme the control
> > > > registers associated with the port connected to master X".
> > > > 
> > > > When a CPU wants to programme a control port for a specific master, it
> > > > needs to know what address range should be programmed.
> > > > 
> > > > I mentioned "resources" instead of addresses since the problem we are
> > > > having is the same when it comes to map IRQs to set of CPUS. We need
> > > > to associate a resource (IRQ or address) to a set of cpus (or more in
> > > > general, masters).
> > > 
> > > Hrm.  See, I think I may be misunderstanding the problem again,
> > > because with this description I can see no problem.  It's already up
> > > to the device binding to describe the purpose of each entry in the reg
> > > property.  So what's the problem with it just being part of the
> > > binding to say which reg entry is associated with which master port?
> > 
> > That's exactly what we are trying to do. But to associate the reg
> > property to a master port we need a phandle, how can we pull that off
> > otherwise ?
> 
> Ah, right.  I was meaning that the binding specifies the abstract port
> number that each reg entry is associated with.  I'm fine with adding a
> property to map the port numbers to master devices on the other end.
> I think treating it in two steps like that is better than thinking of
> the master phandles being  directly associated with reg entries,
> because it also handles cases like having a bank of common/global
> registers not associated with any port/master, or cases where the
> ports aren't all identical and some need more resources than others.

That's fine by me. Can you provide me with an example of how the bindings
should tie a specific reg property to an abstract port number ? reg properties
ordering (ie index) ? Or port number encoded in the reg property itself ?

Thanks,
Lorenzo

  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-03-25 15:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-02-15 17:21 [RFC] DT affinity bindings/representing bus masters with DT Lorenzo Pieralisi
     [not found] ` <20130215172102.GF3014-7AyDDHkRsp3ZROr8t4l/smS4ubULX0JqMm0uRHvK7Nw@public.gmane.org>
2013-02-15 17:52   ` Dave Martin
     [not found]     ` <20130215175206.GA11931-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2013-02-18 18:39       ` Dave Martin
2013-03-06 21:57   ` David Gibson
     [not found]     ` <20130306215714.GC6740-W9XWwYn+TF0XU02nzanrWNbf9cGiqdzd@public.gmane.org>
2013-03-11 17:06       ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
     [not found]         ` <20130311170657.GD25250-7AyDDHkRsp3ZROr8t4l/smS4ubULX0JqMm0uRHvK7Nw@public.gmane.org>
2013-03-18  3:09           ` David Gibson
     [not found]             ` <20130318030928.GG9402-W9XWwYn+TF0XU02nzanrWNbf9cGiqdzd@public.gmane.org>
2013-03-18  9:48               ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
     [not found]                 ` <20130318094815.GA30116-7AyDDHkRsp3ZROr8t4l/smS4ubULX0JqMm0uRHvK7Nw@public.gmane.org>
2013-03-19  7:07                   ` David Gibson
     [not found]                     ` <20130319070734.GX9402-W9XWwYn+TF0XU02nzanrWNbf9cGiqdzd@public.gmane.org>
2013-03-25 15:20                       ` Lorenzo Pieralisi [this message]
     [not found]                         ` <20130325152038.GC27959-7AyDDHkRsp3ZROr8t4l/smS4ubULX0JqMm0uRHvK7Nw@public.gmane.org>
2013-04-13 22:24                           ` Grant Likely
2013-04-15 13:43                             ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
     [not found]                               ` <20130415134302.GA4568-7AyDDHkRsp3ZROr8t4l/smS4ubULX0JqMm0uRHvK7Nw@public.gmane.org>
2013-04-16 15:55                                 ` Dave Martin
     [not found]                                   ` <20130416155518.GA2234-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2013-04-17 10:49                                     ` Lorenzo Pieralisi

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