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From: Lorenzo Pieralisi <lorenzo.pieralisi@arm.com>
To: Stephen Warren <swarren@wwwdotorg.org>
Cc: Nicolas Pitre <nicolas.pitre@linaro.org>,
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Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 2/2] ARM: DT: kernel: DT cpu node bindings update
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2013 11:45:45 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130416104545.GA19837@e102568-lin.cambridge.arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <516C544A.4090107@wwwdotorg.org>

Thanks Stephen for the review.

On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 08:26:02PM +0100, Stephen Warren wrote:
> On 04/15/2013 10:13 AM, Lorenzo Pieralisi wrote:
> > In order to extend the current cpu nodes bindings to newer CPUs
> > inclusive of AArch64 and to update support for older ARM CPUs this
> > patch updates device tree documentation for the cpu nodes bindings.
> > 
> 
> > diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/arm/cpus.txt b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/arm/cpus.txt
> 
> >  http://devicetree.org
> >  
> > -For the ARM architecture every CPU node must contain the following properties:
> > -
> ...
> > +with updates for 32-bit and 64-bit ARM systems provided in this document.
> > +
> > +In the bindings below:
> 
> That's a slightly odd change, since it removes the statement that a cpus
> node must exist, and "in the bindings below" is not idiomatic for DT
> binding definitions.

I beg to differ.

"Bindings for CPU nodes follow the ePAPR standard...."

ePAPR v1.1

3.6 CPUS node properties

"A cpus node is required for all device trees".

> Perhaps replace that last list with:
> 
> The ARM architecture requires the following properties in the cpus and
> cpu nodes contain the properties described below.
> 
> > +- square brackets define bitfields, eg reg[7:0] value of the bitfield in
> > +  the reg property contained in bits 7 down to 0
> 
> Isn't that standard enough it's not even worth mentioning? If it is,
> it's certainly not something that should be mentioned in the part of the
> document that describes which properties are requried.

It is mentioned before cpus node and cpu node descriptions start.

I think you have a point though and it can be omitted, I certainly would
like to understand better what's "standard enough" in DT world to write
these bindings, I took ePAPR as a reference and tried to assume nothing.

> 
> > +	- #address-cells
> > +		Usage: required
> 
> "Usage" sounds more like what it's used for. "Presence" seems better to me.

I have not reinvented the wheel, just had a look at powerPC bindings and
tried to comply. If "Usage" is not proper we also have to patch a number
of in-kernel DT bindings and update the ePAPR.

> > +			# On ARM architecture versions >= 7 based 32-bit
> > +			  systems this property is required and matches the
> 
> Perhaps "On 32-bit ARMv7 or later systems, this property ..."
> 
> > +			# On ARM v8 64-bit systems, where the reg property
> 
> Should there be an explicit note here re: 32-bit SW running on a 64-bit
> system?

Yes, I think I should add an explicit note.

> Perhaps "on ARMv8 systems running 32-bit or 64- bit software, the reg
> property ..."
> 
> > +			  is made up of two cells to accomodate the 64-bit
> > +			  MPDIR_EL1 register this property is required and
> > +			  matches:
> 
> s/matches/must contain/

Ok, I will reword it.

> > +	- enable-method
> > +		Usage: required on ARM 64-bit systems, optional on ARM 32-bit
> > +		       systems
> > +		Value type: <string>
> > +		Definition: On ARM 64-bit systems must be "spin-table" [1].
> 
> Can that be an integer instead? with dtc+cpp support, that shouldn't
> hurt the eyes too much any more.

Mmm, I need to read more on dtc+cpp, I do not think that leaving it
as a string would hurt though, am I wrong ? Can we assume that all dts
are preprocessed before being compiled and passed to the kernel ?

I need to catch up on dtc+cpp before commenting further though, thanks
for the hint.

> > +	- cpu-release-addr
> > +		Usage: required on ARM 64-bit systems, optional on ARM 32-bit
> > +		       systems
> > +		Value type: <prop-encoded-array>
> > +		Definition: On ARM 64-bit systems must be a two cell
> > +			    property identifying a 64-bit zero-initialised
> > +			    memory location [1].
> 
> Presumably that property is required, or not, based on the value of
> enable-method, not based on the ARM architecture or bit-size?

Yes, you have a point even though the bit-size implicitly plays a role
since we have to decouple 32-bit vs 64-bit boot methods.

> > +[1] ARM Linux kernel documentation
> > +    Documentation/devicetree/bindings/arm64/booting.txt
> 
> Is referencing Linux-specific documentation from a supposedly
> OS-agnostic DT binding definition a good idea?

Well, an OS-agnostic DT binding definition in the Linux kernel Documentation
directory. I would like to hear more on this to understand where these
bindings should be published, for now I have no choice but to point
people at Linux kernel documentation (and the ePAPR does too BTW, even
though it is not for explicit bindings).

Thank you !
Lorenzo

  reply	other threads:[~2013-04-16 10:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-04-15 16:13 [RFC PATCH 0/2] ARM: DT cpu bindings updates Lorenzo Pieralisi
2013-04-15 16:13 ` [RFC PATCH 1/2] ARM: DT: kernel: move temporary cpu map stack array to static data Lorenzo Pieralisi
     [not found] ` <1366042402-8987-1-git-send-email-lorenzo.pieralisi-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2013-04-15 16:13   ` [RFC PATCH 2/2] ARM: DT: kernel: DT cpu node bindings update Lorenzo Pieralisi
     [not found]     ` <1366042402-8987-3-git-send-email-lorenzo.pieralisi-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2013-04-15 19:26       ` Stephen Warren
2013-04-16 10:45         ` Lorenzo Pieralisi [this message]
     [not found]           ` <20130416104545.GA19837-7AyDDHkRsp3ZROr8t4l/smS4ubULX0JqMm0uRHvK7Nw@public.gmane.org>
2013-04-16 15:57             ` Stephen Warren
2013-04-16 16:21               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
     [not found]         ` <516C544A.4090107-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>
2013-04-16 14:30           ` Dave Martin
2013-04-17  9:14         ` Mark Rutland
     [not found]           ` <20130417091457.GB5012-NuALmloUBlrZROr8t4l/smS4ubULX0JqMm0uRHvK7Nw@public.gmane.org>
2013-04-17 15:14             ` Stephen Warren
2013-04-17 16:02               ` Nicolas Pitre
     [not found]                 ` <alpine.LFD.2.03.1304171146530.17375-hIgblCxmbi8OMTOF05IoTw@public.gmane.org>
2013-04-17 16:23                   ` Stephen Warren
     [not found]                     ` <516ECC8A.2070508-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>
2013-04-17 16:36                       ` Nicolas Pitre
     [not found]                         ` <alpine.LFD.2.03.1304171231130.17375-hIgblCxmbi8OMTOF05IoTw@public.gmane.org>
2013-04-17 16:56                           ` Dave Martin
2013-04-17 16:24               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
     [not found]               ` <516EBC66.20508-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>
2013-04-18 12:40                 ` Grant Likely
2013-04-16  2:41       ` Simon Horman
2013-04-16 11:00         ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2013-04-17  9:35     ` Nicolas Ferre
2013-04-17 11:44       ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2013-04-17  9:48     ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-04-17 11:02       ` Lorenzo Pieralisi

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