From: Wolfgang Denk <wd-ynQEQJNshbs@public.gmane.org>
To: Stephen Warren <swarren-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>
Cc: u-boot-review
<u-boot-review-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
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Tom Warren <twarren-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
Tom Rini <trini-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [U-Boot] [PATCH] fdt: Enhance dts/Makefile to be all things to all men
Date: Wed, 29 May 2013 23:31:45 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130529213145.698353831A5@gemini.denx.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <51A62F8D.9010208-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>
Dear Stephen,
In message <51A62F8D.9010208-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org> you wrote:
>
> The Linux kernel chose to solve this by bundling the required dtc source
> inside the kernel source tree as a tool. This seems by far the simplest
> way to solve the problem for U-Boot too. If not, it's not exactly hard to:
Actually it's a horrible approach to fixing tool issues upstream.
Or rather to NOT fixing issues. Instead of pushing forward that
distros distribute useful, recent versions we simply copy the dtc
source. Tomorrow we include the source tree for "make", and next week
for "binutils" and "gcc". And in a few months we build a full distro.
It's the same with the Kconfig approach to print only short compile
messages - instead of fixing this once where it belongs (in "make"), a
zillion projects copy the pretty expensive code around, because it is
so much easier.
It's frustrating to watch how good old methods that brought free
software to the state we have today (or we had some time ago already)
more and more get lost and forgotten :-(
Best regards,
Wolfgang Denk
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-05-29 21:31 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-05-28 19:36 [PATCH] fdt: Enhance dts/Makefile to be all things to all men Simon Glass
2013-05-28 19:53 ` Tom Warren
[not found] ` <1369769778-12455-1-git-send-email-sjg-F7+t8E8rja9g9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>
2013-05-28 20:57 ` Stephen Warren
[not found] ` <51A51A50.4050308-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>
2013-05-29 15:59 ` Simon Glass
[not found] ` <CAPnjgZ04BKhQtpJct9tvN8rW5Wae+6fxxOOQDnEkmgrr-mAfwg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2013-05-29 16:40 ` Stephen Warren
[not found] ` <51A62F8D.9010208-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>
2013-05-29 21:31 ` Wolfgang Denk [this message]
[not found] ` <20130529213145.698353831A5-C2Gvrrd9BC/j/ljBK/0BTg@public.gmane.org>
2013-05-29 22:18 ` [U-Boot] " Stephen Warren
[not found] ` <51A67EC1.2000208-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>
2013-05-29 22:36 ` Wolfgang Denk
[not found] ` <20130529223621.8B147383069-C2Gvrrd9BC/j/ljBK/0BTg@public.gmane.org>
2013-05-29 23:07 ` Stephen Warren
[not found] ` <51A68A4C.4060505-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>
2013-05-30 4:46 ` Simon Glass
[not found] ` <CAPnjgZ2_dR90CDtihSun3Yu7_i8TVpxn85XMFQRmzNJeRzDSmQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2013-05-30 5:11 ` Stephen Warren
[not found] ` <51A6DF7C.30903-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>
2013-05-30 5:33 ` Simon Glass
2013-05-30 7:56 ` Wolfgang Denk
2013-05-30 17:38 ` Stephen Warren
2013-05-30 7:49 ` [U-Boot] " Wolfgang Denk
2013-05-28 21:08 ` Wolfgang Denk
2013-05-29 16:00 ` Simon Glass
[not found] ` <CAPnjgZ2a+qrsPWTz5Y=48m_LCRqAikY0-seJudW8AY5asdwmxw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2013-05-29 21:02 ` [U-Boot] " Wolfgang Denk
[not found] ` <20130528210829.850203831A2-C2Gvrrd9BC/j/ljBK/0BTg@public.gmane.org>
2013-05-29 17:02 ` Stephen Warren
[not found] ` <51A634B5.5060309-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>
2013-05-29 21:33 ` Wolfgang Denk
[not found] ` <20130529213347.821AE3831A5-C2Gvrrd9BC/j/ljBK/0BTg@public.gmane.org>
2013-05-29 22:52 ` Stephen Warren
[not found] ` <51A6869F.1020004-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>
2013-05-30 7:05 ` Wolfgang Denk
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