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From: Greg KH <gregkh-hQyY1W1yCW8ekmWlsbkhG0B+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org>
To: Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton <lkcl-fw2G7BUl9JU@public.gmane.org>
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Subject: Re: getting allwinner SoC support upstream (was Re: Uploading linux (3.9.4-1))
Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2013 17:35:53 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130606003553.GA7017@kroah.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAPweEDwyX4=Sme9kyDU64k9h3SPUHuErD8gEqfdYLGwBOocZDQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>

On Wed, Jun 05, 2013 at 11:56:43PM +0100, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote:
> so there's a lot of factors which i believe the linux kernel
> developers are not aware of, and haven't taken into account, and to
> place blame onto the SoC vendors for not working with *you* when *you*
> haven't made an effort to understand their situation is, i feel, not
> really helping anyone.  not that i'm one to talk about understanding
> people, but hey... :)

Wait, everyone in the world knows where we (Linux kernel developers)
are, and how to contact us, how are we supposed to know we are supposed
to go after these various companies and contact them directly?

So this SoC vendor doesn't want to merge their code upstream, fine, we
(kernel community) don't really care, and it's obvious the company
doesn't care, so what really is the issue here?

Eventually, the SoC will realize that they do need to get their code
merged, and we will still be here, as we aren't going anywhere.  At that
point in time, we will be glad to review patches and code like we do
every day for all of the thousands of other companies we deal with on a
weekly basis.

I don't see the problem here, do you?

greg k-h

  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-06-06  0:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 109+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <CAPweEDx3mAy40BZrzrKPRbvg7vKMj7KevDQ3m_v4p6Yo50eSGg@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found] ` <CAPweEDx3mAy40BZrzrKPRbvg7vKMj7KevDQ3m_v4p6Yo50eSGg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2013-06-05 20:46   ` getting allwinner SoC support upstream (was Re: Uploading linux (3.9.4-1)) jonsmirl-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w
2013-06-05 21:00     ` Stephen Warren
2013-06-05 21:16       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-06-05 22:07         ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2013-06-06  8:16           ` Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD
2013-06-05 22:22         ` Tomasz Figa
2013-06-05 21:24       ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2013-06-05 21:38         ` Lennart Sorensen
2013-06-05 22:10           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-06-05 21:59         ` Henrik Nordström
2013-06-05 22:47           ` [Arm-netbook] " luke.leighton
     [not found]             ` <CAPweEDxMpeJc-w=Yd7d2OT=UisRBp2rxf-MPMDUCOG3EyJz1GQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2013-06-05 23:07               ` jonsmirl-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w
2013-06-05 23:26                 ` luke.leighton
2013-06-05 23:28                   ` [Arm-netbook] " jonsmirl
2013-06-05 23:40                   ` Henrik Nordström
2013-06-05 23:54                     ` luke.leighton
2013-06-06  0:01                       ` [Arm-netbook] " Tomasz Figa
2013-06-06  9:27                         ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-06-06 10:02                           ` Tomasz Figa
2013-06-07 18:26                           ` luke.leighton
2013-06-07 18:59                             ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-06-07 19:14                               ` luke.leighton
2013-06-07 21:29                               ` luke.leighton
2013-06-08  8:28                                 ` Tomasz Figa
2013-06-08  9:08                                   ` luke.leighton
2013-06-09 22:09                                     ` luke.leighton
2013-06-09 22:31                                       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-06-09 23:30                                         ` luke.leighton
2013-06-07 22:08                             ` Maxime Ripard
2013-06-07 23:07                               ` luke.leighton
     [not found]                                 ` <CAPweEDwFHY_AbBxjspm7BvfdFHsxL5H594cFN4ZVC6QFpu4QGA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2013-06-07 23:09                                   ` Dennis Lan (dlan)
2013-06-07 23:17                                     ` luke.leighton
2013-06-06  9:49                         ` Mark Brown
2013-06-06 12:24                         ` luke.leighton
     [not found]                           ` <CAPweEDzYLDzh_-OWU61dtVhajZ40QpQgZKHFYDsh3FgF=r9_ag-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2013-06-06 12:43                             ` [Arm-netbook] " Tomasz Figa
2013-06-06 12:49                               ` luke.leighton
2013-06-06 13:02                                 ` [Arm-netbook] " Tomasz Figa
2013-06-07  7:52                                   ` luke.leighton
2013-06-07  8:40                                     ` Vladimir Pantelic
     [not found]                                       ` <51B19C85.9090407-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2013-06-07  9:08                                         ` [Arm-netbook] " Russell King - ARM Linux
     [not found]                                     ` <CAPweEDx_1fvAv9sROtPreoyyj_yDAuYb040fM2zPc+tf22d=YA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2013-06-07  8:57                                       ` Tomasz Figa
2013-06-07 10:32                                         ` Bjørn Mork
2013-06-07 19:02                                         ` luke.leighton
2013-06-07 19:16                                           ` Tomasz Figa
     [not found]                                           ` <CAPweEDwmgr2JbH+txDDjR_gDA2R2C1v=AuVCUVTs7RriMhZNiA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2013-06-07 19:30                                             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-06-07 21:34                                               ` luke.leighton
2013-06-07 14:30                                     ` Lennart Sorensen
2013-06-06 13:10                           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-06-07  8:02                             ` luke.leighton
     [not found]                               ` <CAPweEDyYt+pN+UaFuqWL5RrHpyuq_4So-tArmx3dr=0wLS+hwQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2013-06-07  8:49                                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-06-07 10:26                               ` Henrik Nordström
2013-06-07 17:30                               ` Stephen Warren
2013-06-06 14:02                           ` Theodore Ts'o
     [not found]                             ` <20130606140250.GA4839-AKGzg7BKzIDYtjvyW6yDsg@public.gmane.org>
2013-06-06 15:05                               ` Olof Johansson
2013-06-06  0:19                       ` Henrik Nordström
2013-06-06 12:22                         ` luke.leighton
2013-06-06 12:51                           ` Vladimir Pantelic
2013-06-07  7:40                             ` [Arm-netbook] " luke.leighton
2013-06-07  7:48                               ` Vladimir Pantelic
2013-06-07  8:06                                 ` luke.leighton
2013-06-07  8:18                                   ` [Arm-netbook] " Alexandre Belloni
2013-06-07 18:15                                     ` luke.leighton
2013-06-07 14:49                                   ` joem
2013-06-07 18:26                                     ` [Arm-netbook] " Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-06-07 19:18                                       ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2013-06-07 19:31                                         ` Ben Hutchings
     [not found]                                         ` <CAPweEDxXnRWYK4GhSkN-PzM1hLOZPiD1MUne1Q-4FT6PJRJUtw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2013-06-07 19:35                                           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-06-07 21:41                                             ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2013-06-07 20:00                                       ` joem
2013-06-07  9:14                                 ` [Arm-netbook] " Russell King - ARM Linux
     [not found]                           ` <CAPweEDyPffcN9cNJ10ZHt+AZJHTRdU0LMfCGM_756uAbf+NEBQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2013-06-06 13:15                             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-06-06 18:51                           ` Henrik Nordström
2013-06-06 15:13                       ` [Arm-netbook] " jonsmirl
2013-06-06 16:00                         ` Olof Johansson
2013-06-06 17:28                           ` Maxime Ripard
2013-06-06 18:55                             ` Lennart Sorensen
2013-06-06 20:22                             ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-06-07 18:56                               ` luke.leighton
2013-06-07 18:50                             ` luke.leighton
2013-06-07 18:57                             ` Wookey
2013-06-07 19:08                               ` luke.leighton
2013-06-07 21:13                                 ` luke.leighton
2013-06-07  9:17                           ` Barry Song
2013-06-07 18:45                           ` luke.leighton
2013-06-07 18:54                             ` Olof Johansson
2013-06-07 19:04                               ` luke.leighton
     [not found]                                 ` <CAPweEDzeyJh+DKX=8tzrT9AnG9NqLp8nWkWFmB2Wy+JnBkqEdg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2013-06-07 19:31                                   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
     [not found]                   ` <CAPweEDw1BabE0cmT5fxZ3Z9p9EH508M3Nzcqk2VcO0oz-qYsvg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2013-06-05 23:40                     ` jonsmirl-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w
2013-06-05 23:52                       ` luke.leighton
2013-06-06  0:15                         ` Henrik Nordström
2013-06-06 12:19                           ` [Arm-netbook] " luke.leighton
2013-06-06 18:44                             ` Henrik Nordström
2013-06-05 22:54           ` Stephen Warren
2013-06-05 23:15             ` Henrik Nordström
2013-06-06  1:56         ` Stefan Monnier
2013-06-05 21:15     ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2013-06-05 21:47       ` Henrik Nordström
2013-06-05 22:20         ` [Arm-netbook] " luke.leighton
2013-06-06  0:23           ` Henrik Nordström
2013-06-05 21:52       ` Tomasz Figa
2013-06-05 22:38         ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2013-06-05 23:27           ` Tomasz Figa
2013-06-05 23:46             ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2013-06-06 15:30           ` Lennart Sorensen
2013-06-05 20:48 ` jonsmirl
2013-06-05 22:11   ` Tomasz Figa
2013-06-05 22:56     ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
     [not found]       ` <CAPweEDwyX4=Sme9kyDU64k9h3SPUHuErD8gEqfdYLGwBOocZDQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2013-06-06  0:35         ` Greg KH [this message]
     [not found]   ` <CAKON4OyyRF4Z46RyJFDWUwo4L52Z8bgSH0CzDr2gDerw4iDwcw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2013-06-06  9:29     ` Thomas Petazzoni

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