From: Russell King <rmk-lFZ/pmaqli7XmaaqVzeoHQ@public.gmane.org>
To: Sascha Hauer <s.hauer-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org>
Cc: 'Jean-Francois Moine' <moinejf-GANU6spQydw@public.gmane.org>,
'Daniel Drake' <dsd-2X9k7bc8m7Mdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>,
devicetree-discuss-uLR06cmDAlY/bJ5BZ2RsiQ@public.gmane.org,
dri-devel-PD4FTy7X32lNgt0PjOBp9y5qC8QIuHrW@public.gmane.org,
Inki Dae <inki.dae-Sze3O3UU22JBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>,
'Sebastian Hesselbarth'
<sebastian.hesselbarth-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: Best practice device tree design for display subsystems/DRM
Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2013 10:08:29 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130704090829.GQ13924@flint.arm.linux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130704083307.GH10414-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org>
On Thu, Jul 04, 2013 at 10:33:07AM +0200, Sascha Hauer wrote:
> A componentized device never completes and it doesn't have to. A
> componentized device can start once there is a path from an input
> (crtc, i2s unit) to an output (connector, speaker).
Sorry for the incomplete reply.
If you read all the messages in this thread, then you will realise that
DRM does not support an incremental startup approach. It needs to know
everything at the point of "load".
> Without supernode you can just start once you have everything between
> the crtc and lvds nodes. If later a hdmi device joins in then you can
> either notify the users (provided the DRM/KMS API supports it) or just
> ignore it until the DRM device gets reopened.
It's not a case that you can ignore it until the "DRM device gets reopened"
because the DRM device never shuts down. You'd have to ignore it until
you tear down what you have already registered into DRM, causing all
the display hardware to be shutdown, and then re-"load" DRM.
To make this work, you would have to modify not only DRM to allow that,
but also the framebuffer layer too. Are you volunteering? :)
I don't think that Sebastian nor myself have either the motivation nor
the time available to go down that route of majorly rewriting kernel
subsystems.
Not only that but I believe it to be an unsafe approach as I've already
outlined.
--
Russell King
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Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-07-02 17:43 Best practice device tree design for display subsystems/DRM Daniel Drake
2013-07-02 18:42 ` Jean-Francois Moine
2013-07-02 19:19 ` Russell King
[not found] ` <20130702191923.GD13924-f404yB8NqCZvn6HldHNs0ANdhmdF6hFW@public.gmane.org>
2013-07-02 19:57 ` Sebastian Hesselbarth
[not found] ` <51D330AC.5060903-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2013-07-02 20:25 ` Russell King
[not found] ` <20130702202548.GE13924-f404yB8NqCZvn6HldHNs0ANdhmdF6hFW@public.gmane.org>
2013-07-02 21:50 ` Sascha Hauer
2013-07-02 22:02 ` Dave Airlie
[not found] ` <CAPM=9ty8W7wEewLpcKjNV-RXzVnReKVrPu_MGN80=Y-xPr-f+w-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2013-07-02 22:14 ` Russell King
[not found] ` <20130702221445.GF13924-f404yB8NqCZvn6HldHNs0ANdhmdF6hFW@public.gmane.org>
2013-07-03 7:33 ` Sascha Hauer
2013-07-03 1:46 ` Stéphane Marchesin
[not found] ` <CACP_E++-L_Ntv=ZpkrSjB4y4GRc=WNDdXLeQAxb5NWniD3Frfg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2013-07-03 2:56 ` Rob Clark
2013-07-03 6:42 ` Inki Dae
2013-07-03 12:31 ` Lucas Stach
2013-07-03 6:55 ` Sascha Hauer
[not found] ` <20130703065559.GJ516-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org>
2013-07-03 8:20 ` Sebastian Hesselbarth
2013-07-05 8:37 ` Grant Likely
[not found] ` <CACxGe6uTv2yaTH-_JLa=vtgmXwq=++wz3=eDpkRr2GVbKaME1A-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2013-07-05 8:50 ` Russell King
[not found] ` <20130705085020.GV13924-f404yB8NqCZvn6HldHNs0ANdhmdF6hFW@public.gmane.org>
2013-07-05 9:02 ` Grant Likely
2013-07-02 21:04 ` Daniel Drake
[not found] ` <CAMLZHHTbkfxmzrSrAU586Ywxptk=4Njzb0_puWxhfBcmBB0BWQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2013-07-02 21:41 ` Sebastian Hesselbarth
[not found] ` <51D348F5.2080205-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2013-07-03 8:57 ` Inki Dae
[not found] ` <00ae01ce77cb$524d57f0$f6e807d0$%dae-Sze3O3UU22JBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
2013-07-03 9:02 ` Sascha Hauer
[not found] ` <20130703090242.GM516-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org>
2013-07-03 9:08 ` Sebastian Hesselbarth
[not found] ` <51D3EA0E.2090008-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2013-07-03 9:48 ` Inki Dae
[not found] ` <00ba01ce77d2$80285f10$80791d30$%dae-Sze3O3UU22JBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
2013-07-03 9:53 ` Russell King
[not found] ` <20130703095338.GH13924-f404yB8NqCZvn6HldHNs0ANdhmdF6hFW@public.gmane.org>
2013-07-03 10:52 ` Sebastian Hesselbarth
[not found] ` <51D40275.4020806-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2013-07-03 11:32 ` Russell King
[not found] ` <20130703113224.GI13924-f404yB8NqCZvn6HldHNs0ANdhmdF6hFW@public.gmane.org>
2013-07-03 17:38 ` Sebastian Hesselbarth
2013-07-03 11:43 ` Inki Dae
[not found] ` <00cc01ce77e2$844b3a80$8ce1af80$%dae-Sze3O3UU22JBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
2013-07-03 11:51 ` Sebastian Hesselbarth
[not found] ` <51D4105C.3070503-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2013-07-04 7:05 ` Inki Dae
[not found] ` <000601ce7884$e99ade20$bcd09a60$%dae-Sze3O3UU22JBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
2013-07-04 7:25 ` Sebastian Hesselbarth
[not found] ` <51D5234C.3070000-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2013-07-04 8:15 ` Inki Dae
2013-07-03 12:04 ` Russell King
[not found] ` <20130703120458.GJ13924-f404yB8NqCZvn6HldHNs0ANdhmdF6hFW@public.gmane.org>
2013-07-04 2:03 ` Inki Dae
2013-07-03 9:52 ` Russell King
[not found] ` <20130703095248.GG13924-f404yB8NqCZvn6HldHNs0ANdhmdF6hFW@public.gmane.org>
2013-07-03 11:12 ` Sebastian Hesselbarth
2013-07-03 11:29 ` Sascha Hauer
2013-07-04 8:33 ` Sascha Hauer
[not found] ` <20130704083307.GH10414-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org>
2013-07-04 8:40 ` Russell King
[not found] ` <20130704084052.GP13924-f404yB8NqCZvn6HldHNs0ANdhmdF6hFW@public.gmane.org>
2013-07-04 8:58 ` Sascha Hauer
[not found] ` <20130704085817.GZ516-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org>
2013-07-04 9:11 ` Russell King
[not found] ` <20130704091131.GR13924-f404yB8NqCZvn6HldHNs0ANdhmdF6hFW@public.gmane.org>
2013-07-04 9:30 ` Sascha Hauer
[not found] ` <20130704093047.GJ10414-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org>
2013-07-04 9:44 ` Sebastian Hesselbarth
[not found] ` <51D54409.6020608-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2013-07-04 10:09 ` Sascha Hauer
[not found] ` <20130704100932.GL10414-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org>
2013-07-04 10:58 ` Sebastian Hesselbarth
2013-07-05 10:07 ` Sascha Hauer
[not found] ` <20130705100750.GJ516-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org>
2013-07-05 10:41 ` Grant Likely
2013-07-04 8:45 ` Sebastian Hesselbarth
[not found] ` <51D53634.5040405-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2013-07-04 8:53 ` Sascha Hauer
[not found] ` <20130704085313.GY516-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org>
2013-07-04 9:10 ` Sebastian Hesselbarth
[not found] ` <51D53C0B.6060106-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2013-07-04 9:23 ` Sascha Hauer
[not found] ` <20130704092305.GI10414-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org>
2013-07-04 9:40 ` Sebastian Hesselbarth
[not found] ` <51D54301.8080902-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2013-07-04 9:57 ` Sascha Hauer
2013-07-04 9:08 ` Russell King [this message]
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2013-07-04 9:51 ` Sascha Hauer
2013-07-05 8:43 ` Grant Likely
[not found] ` <CACxGe6uRJ9B9qnPT_KLNphg-n2WeA9UFO-rvCdKJHijGqJ8SOg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2013-07-05 9:34 ` Sebastian Hesselbarth
[not found] ` <51D69324.90301-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2013-07-05 9:51 ` Grant Likely
[not found] ` <CACxGe6v_oQptLZzgsT_nf-K4680mP1f8sHJHN8AekeEy0_T18w-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2013-07-05 11:16 ` Sebastian Hesselbarth
2013-07-04 15:11 ` Rob Clark
[not found] ` <CAF6AEGuzwNJtuAWS29YvdZ1fiMGk5cuv24n4wxkKsDPT8FrDBw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2013-07-04 21:28 ` Dave Airlie
2013-07-05 0:50 ` Alex Deucher
[not found] ` <CAMLZHHREVEdRuHaD0imRu4pUv15ZyWYF2J9WCBEw-frxBry-Lw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2013-07-02 18:43 ` Russell King
[not found] ` <20130702184305.GB13924-f404yB8NqCZvn6HldHNs0ANdhmdF6hFW@public.gmane.org>
2013-07-02 18:54 ` Daniel Drake
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2013-07-02 19:08 ` Russell King
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2013-07-03 8:06 ` Inki Dae
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