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From: Thomas Petazzoni <thomas.petazzoni@free-electrons.com>
To: Grant Likely <grant.likely@secretlab.ca>
Cc: "Florian Fainelli" <florian@openwrt.org>,
	netdev <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Sebastian Hesselbarth" <sebastian.hesselbarth@gmail.com>,
	"Gregory Clément" <gregory.clement@free-electrons.com>,
	"Ezequiel Garcia" <ezequiel.garcia@free-electrons.com>,
	"Lior Amsalem" <alior@marvell.com>,
	"devicetree-discuss@lists.ozlabs.org"
	<devicetree-discuss@lists.ozlabs.org>,
	"Andy Fleming" <afleming@freescale.com>
Subject: Re: Fixed PHY Device Tree usage?
Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2013 19:02:06 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130713190206.2a617983@skate> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CACxGe6tzMhjH8nxJ1Ezrc43DqCmv-pWRW2NsXa=fP-6Fh_t5PA@mail.gmail.com>

Dear Grant Likely,

On Fri, 12 Jul 2013 23:44:21 +0100, Grant Likely wrote:

> I think this discussion is going in the wrong direction. The concept
> of a dummy phy is really a Linux kernel internal detail. Creating some
> kind of dummy MDIO bus node does not describe the hardware.

This is exactly what I was suggesting in my original e-mail of this
thread, see http://marc.info/?l=linux-netdev&m=137338762627063&w=2 :

"""
One option is to implement a Device Tree binding for the fixed PHY
driver (the exact DT binding would have to be discussed), but I'm
wondering whether describing a fixed PHY in the DT is actually correct,
because describing a fixed PHy is not really describing the hardware,
the hardware is actually a switch.
"""

> There is
> already support in the kernel for Ethernet MACs connected directly to
> a switch or other device. It is far better to describe how the MAC
> needs to be configured than to invent a non-existent phy. Search for
> "fixed-link" in the kernel tree to see how it is used.

As Florian pointed out, the of_phy_connect_fixed_link() comment
indicates:

 * This function is a temporary stop-gap and will be removed soon.  It is
 * only to support the fs_enet, ucc_geth and gianfar Ethernet drivers. Do
 * not call this function from new drivers.

Also, it would probably be good to have a few more helpers to make
parsing the "phy" and "fixed-link" property easier for network drivers.

Thanks for your feedback,

Thomas
-- 
Thomas Petazzoni, Free Electrons
Kernel, drivers, real-time and embedded Linux
development, consulting, training and support.
http://free-electrons.com

      parent reply	other threads:[~2013-07-13 17:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20130709183312.6c4d052d@skate>
     [not found] ` <CAGVrzcZ7ZLSDy5sTUR_XuSAUH=5q8ddiXx5n1y680WwGrdFfTw@mail.gmail.com>
2013-07-09 18:02   ` Fixed PHY Device Tree usage? Florian Fainelli
2013-07-10 16:22     ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-07-10 16:29       ` Florian Fainelli
2013-07-10 16:39         ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-07-10 17:23           ` Florian Fainelli
2013-07-12 11:56             ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-07-12 12:05               ` Florian Fainelli
2013-07-12 13:04                 ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-07-12 22:44             ` Grant Likely
2013-07-12 23:29               ` Florian Fainelli
2013-07-13 17:02               ` Thomas Petazzoni [this message]

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